Was Australia's Sledging Too Much?

[Adders]

Clarke has a temper. Cook doesn't, or at least he doesn't ever show it (which is probably a good thing given how he plays the game tbf)

Can't say I can recall either publicly losing it tbh?? I'd actually love to know what Cook is really like behind closed doors.......surely you don't get to captain an International test side without having the capacity to dish out a decent spray where deserved??

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Cook could threaten to run him over in his tractor.

 

[Adders]

LOL, that'll work.

 

[Spark]

Can't say I can recall either publicly losing it tbh?? I'd actually love to know what Cook is really like behind closed doors.......surely you don't get to captain an International test side without having the capacity to dish out a decent spray where deserved??

Have seen Clarke lose his cool on the field plenty of times, and worse than on Sunday. Generally speaking "frustrated" is the most irritated I've seen Cook get, as opposed to yelling at people. Publicly, ofc, Clarke is very controlled and polished, but out of the range of the microphone he's apparently as emotive and opinionated as any other Aus captain in recent memory.

 

[Riggins]

The Drossfather - Clarke: The rare combination

 

[Quaggas]

Clarke has a temper.

Fearful?

 

[Burgey]

I wonder what people would be saying about Clarke if he'd top edged a pull shot early in the second dig when he was taking on Broad? Say he'd holed out for 20 odd during what looked like a frenetic start to his innings. Would be interesting to see how that was dealt with by the media and by the England players.

 

[silentstriker]

If anything Darren Lehmann will tell them to ramp up the aggression even further in Adelaide.

Not necessarily the best guy to take advice from on this matter....

 

[Watson33]

Lehmann has already stated that they wont meet with the England staff to discuss this, and that they won't partake in any events outside of cricket with the England team till after it. Play hard, then have a beer with them at the end of tour. So expect the sledging to only get worse now the Aussies know they're getting under the English skin.

 

[Ray.]

Andersen started it by crapping at Bailey?

 

[Watson33]

Andersen started it by crapping at Bailey?

I don't think we really know who started it. Apparently Bailey said to Anderson the MJ was about to break his fingers.

 

[karan316]

I think the Australians should have kept things simple and refrained from sledging once they knew they were in control of the game, the post match statements and the over reactions after the win means that the English side will be a lot more determined and focused to prove a point. If you do want to sledge, you don't do it to get the opposition motivated, this might just backfire for the Aussies.

 

[3703]

Actually I think they did, it was during that test that Matt Prior had to suggest to Peter Siddle that they continue their discussion in the carpark after the game and also the test where poor old Mitch tried his failed sledge on Anderson. I remember distinctly everyone talking about the return of the Aussie mongrel.

Your last sentence.......not sure what to make of that??? Are we not as tough as them?? Alastair Cook can threaten to break someone's arm just as well as Michael Clarke can.

Yeah I remember those exchanges. I also remember Johnson's sledging at Johannesburg, and Patto getting in Sehwag's face. It's not as if they took a vow of silence you understand. It is the brand of cricket upheld by the entire XI that we are talking about. The Gabba test was a whole different brand of cricket on a whole other level to anything seen in any series since 2008. It was stark and dramatic in its contrast with previously. If you think it is tit for tat with what was seen in Perth in 2010-11, I don't know what to tell you. The difference is fundamental.

The last sentence I mean that English cricket is culturally different, they're not raised playing that brand. Andrew Strauss has alluded to this, so too has Stuart Broad. It's not their natural game, so trying to adopt this approach mid-series is probably not going to help their cricket.

 

[Adders]

If you think it is tit for tat with what was seen in Perth in 2010-11, I don't know what to tell you. The difference is fundamental.

You're going to have to show me where I said the aggression in this Gabba test was on par with Perth 2010. All I said was Perth 2010 was the last time I saw the Aussie mongrel on display.......I never said they didn't take it to a whole new level in Brisbane.

 

[3703]

You're going to have to show me where I said the aggression in this Gabba test was on par with Perth 2010. All I said was Perth 2010 was the last time I saw the Aussie mongrel on display.......I never said they didn't take it to a whole new level in Brisbane.

Yeah nah it's more that watching them in Perth, I didn't think they played with a lot of aggression or mongrel. There were a few words and all that, but I still thought we were playing tame cricket at the time and wasn't surprised to see us fold at the MCG.

 

[Viscount Tom]

But in previous series your lot have been very much in our faces never giving an inch to whomever you play, Perth was the only time since blokes like Hayden have retired where we've seen them really Australian.

 

[archie mac]

Would have like to see a poll for this topic. I thought it a little over the top. Just for the record

 

[Shri]

Not over the top. It seems everyone has completely forgotten how dire they were for 15 years a few years ago.

 

[archie mac]

Not over the top. It seems everyone has completely forgotten how dire they were for 15 years a few years ago.

I don't think anyone has forgotten, but we don't want to go back there. The way they stopped this was to fine and suspend players. I shudder to think how bad things would have become otherwise. Hence the need for a match referee.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Honestly, think Australia have been taking potshots at England all winter, but when you're winning (and don't see the opposition as a threat) you don't feel the need to bite back, or you just wait till Australia bat. There were some heated exchanges in the English series, besides the Lords match when Australia had their tail between their legs, but it wasn't tiddlywinks there either.

People didn't take much notice of it because it didn't turn into a big confrontation. Basically, you can only ever really tell anything is going on from the crowd or TV when the batsman starts biting back.