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*Official* First Test at The Gabba

GuyFromLancs

State Vice-Captain
Look, either go all out and turn it into an "insult the hell outta GFL" thread; or talk cricket.

Don't be a ***** and leave it in no-man's land.

I'm happy to talk cricket, and forgive and forget.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Whereas I don't recall a single thing you've ever written.

Which combined with your Dad probably leaving home when you were a nipper, doesn't bode well for you does it?

You no-mark ****!

Now, either talk cricket, or STFU
Post reported. It is out of line. Every thread you talk **** about cricket and then get juvenile and abusive.

669 posts of ****e and I hope there isnt a 670th
 

ajdude

International Coach
I didn't know a single word could be so difficult to comprehend.
perhaps you should've used wordart and underlined it and used italics. it's how i begin every powerpoint presentation i have to make at uni anyway

haddin and harris to put on 272, heard it here first gentlemen
 

Maximas

Cricketer Of The Year
tbh I'm secretly glad Broad showed us up, I don't like the guy but he doesn't deserve the **** he's been given IMO
 

Spark

Global Moderator
perhaps you should've used wordart and underlined it and used italics. it's how i begin every powerpoint presentation i have to make at uni anyway

haddin and harris to put on 272, heard it here first gentlemen
windings tbh
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Look, I may well be a dick by a number of people's measurements. Fair enough.

But in the instance I tried to get back on track - I receive insults from randoms mid-way through conversations, all on the back of King Burgey implcitely advising his slaveboys to have a pop.

Believe it or not, I came here to talk cricket. If you want to turn it all into a nasty insult-fest, I'm game. I can take it. We
can go really nasty!

But that wasn't my reason for logging on here. And I'd prefer it not to head down that route.

And subject to banning, I'm not leaving either
Amen to that.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Anyway - An interesting article on Cricinfo today.

I wasn't aware of the whole psychological angle England were seeking to exploit with Broad. People thriving in a climate of abuse - very interesting stuff.

Broad perhaps isn't typically the guy to maintain form across a whole 5-match series. Perhaps this is a catalyst?
It's funny how it actually transpired. Broad bowled well in patches today but I've seen him bowl much better and take 0/70; I actually thought he bowled much better at the back end of the English Ashes than he did today. How many times have we seen Broad run in with the new ball, bang in a bunch of short rocks and then have wpdavid to come in and tell us how terrible the attack looks, Spark mention how much better he looks when he pitches it up etc because he takes none and wastes the new ball? Today those short rocks took wickets. Yeah, the pitch was more conducive to short bowling than we usually see when Broad bowls and yeah, two of them were actually pretty well directed (even if poorly played) but he's bowled extremely similar spells before only be roundly criticised for his length, and the Warner/Watson wickets were gifts.

It's definitely possible that his "revels in being the villain" thing could play a part in the series with Broad. I'm not at all convinced it did today though - in fact if it makes him bowl that short for most of the series it's probably a good thing for Australia.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
When Broad is bowling at his absolute best, he's near unmatched in world cricket at being able to get genuinely vicious bounce/seam movement off a length - the ball will seem to genuinely rear up out of nowhere and such deliveries are simply impossible to play. Again, I missed most of the day's play but I didn't really see much of that on display. Just good, consistent bowling with some bounce and threat that any Test standard batsman should be capable of dealing with.

Sigh.
 

GuyFromLancs

State Vice-Captain
I agree with the expression that he's a much better bowler when he pitches it up. Unlike, say, Finn or Tremlett, Broad has always looked like his natural length was fuller, skiddier and looking for away movement. When he came into the fold in 07 I was praying he wasn't going to be moulded as a new Harmison-type deck-hitter.

As someone who doesn't bowl fast, can someone explain to me the psychology of being unable to resist bowling "unnaturally" short? Is it purely the desire for economy, or to inflict pain (or a convenient ****tail of the two)?
 
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Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Re: Bailey. Isnt one of the ideas behind batting on off stump so that you know where your off stump is? It makes no sense if you are going to play defensively at balls that wouldnt hit a 3rd set of stumps and your feet finish 2 feet outside off. Nothing more criminal than getting out playing defensively to a ball that could otherwise not get you out. Warner looked silly but at least showed intent.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Re: Bailey. Isnt one of the ideas behind batting on off stump so that you know where your off stump is? It makes no sense if you are going to play defensively at balls that wouldnt hit a 3rd set of stumps and your feet finish 2 feet outside off. Nothing more criminal than getting out playing defensively to a ball that could otherwise not get you out. Warner looked silly but at least showed intent.
I'd agree that that is generally the theory I guess when setting up on off stump. He will have had to battle the inevitable debut nerves and an Ashes opener tests the nerves of even the most experienced Test player, so he will have wanted to feel the bat on ball to settle himself down and start to feel more at home and confident at this level. Throw in the fact he has played a lot of short form cricket of late and I guess those factors combined meant he was always going to feel for the ball. England were obviously aware of this and bowled a perfect line outside his off stump.
 

Maximas

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, I often bat on offstump early in my innings and play at nothing outside my line of vision while just picking off anything on my pads, it's a good thing to do if you're prepared to leave but obviously Bailey wasn't
 

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