"Best ever" teams selected by former players or experts- whose is best?

[smash84]

and why is Sobers batting below Imran? And Wasim below Murali?

 

[harsh.ag]

and why is Sobers batting below Imran? And Wasim below Murali?

Don't you get it?! It's because of the Brain at number 5!!

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Cricket was played before 1970.

And cricket is also being played post West Indies decline.

 

[kyear2]

And cricket is also being played post West Indies decline.

I am aware. What's your point?

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I am aware. What's your point?

Come on Kyear, where is the love for Sammy, Ganga, Pollard? I feel like you are discriminating them against Sobers, Marshall, Viv. Imagine how they would feel if they were to view your posts. Don't break their hearts.

 

[smash84]

lol.....stop with your stupid ****

 

[kyear2]

Geoff Armstrong
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Pollock, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, Barnes

Cricinfo
Hutton, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Akram, Warne, Lillee

Geoffrey Boycott
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Headley, Richards, Sobers, Knott, Marshall, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

Bleacher
Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Miller, Imran, Warne, Marshall, Barnes

Benaud
Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Imran, Gilchrist, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

CricketWeb
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, McGrath

Christopher Martin-Jenkins
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Richards, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Barnes, McGrath

Harsh Thakor
Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Akram, Marshall, Lillee

The Roar
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Richards, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Marshall, Lillee, McGrath

Wisden
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Knott, Akram, Warne, Marshall, Barnes

 

[kyear2]

A few observations,

1) All those experts and not any two persons selected the same XI.
2) Ten teams and no Lara, Hadee or Muralitharan
3) Unanimous selections: Hobbs, Bradman, Sobers and Warne. Next and would have been if not for Benaud, Marshall.

Composite XI

Jack Hobbs (10)
Len Hutton (4)
Don Bradman (10)
Viv Richards (8)
Sachin Tendulkar (7*)
Garry Sobers (10)
Adam Gilchrist (8)
Malcolm Marshall (9)
Shane Warne (10)
Dennis Lillee (5)
Syd Barnes (5)

So should this be the ATG XI?

 

[Red]

Please put Tendulkar at #4 and Viv at #5.

 

[kyear2]

Please put Tendulkar at #4 and Viv at #5.

Going by votes, but why? Viv was probably the second best No. 3 so the next logical spot is No. 4.

Plus can anyone imagine the carnage of Viv and Bradman batting together?

 

[watson]

A few observations,

1) All those experts and not any two persons selected the same XI.
2) Ten teams and no Lara, Hadee or Muralitharan
3) Unanimous selections: Hobbs, Bradman, Sobers and Warne. Next and would have been if not for Benaud, Marshall.

Composite XI

Jack Hobbs (10)
Len Hutton (4)
Don Bradman (10)
Viv Richards (8)
Sachin Tendulkar (7*)
Garry Sobers (10)
Adam Gilchrist (8)
Malcolm Marshall (9)
Shane Warne (10)
Dennis Lillee (5)
Syd Barnes (5)

So should this be the ATG XI?

Depends whether the 'NUFAN Principle' is valid or not. That is - 'The first change bowler must, by definition, be an ATG fast-bowler'

If the NUFAN Principle is NOT valid then I would say that your team is the strongest possible, or very close to it.

Needless to say, the 'NUFAN Principle' is worth discussing as it has definite implications.

 

[Red]

Going by votes, but why? Viv was probably the second best No. 3 so the next logical spot is No. 4.

Plus can anyone imagine the carnage of Viv and Bradman batting together?

Tis just something I'm a bit pedantic about. Tendulkar always bats at #4. When Viv dropped down the order from 3 he went to 5.

 

[archie mac]

I think the Wisden team the best

 

[smash84]

I think Richie Benuad's team was fantastic.

 

[kyear2]

Apart from CW's would have to say Cricinfo's. Just don't rate Barnes that high and Marshall missing is a deal breaker for Benaud's team. Boycott's is pretty good as well though, at least in that team Barnes is bowling the new ball.

 

[smash84]

CW is of course our own baby so it is pretty good. The reason that I like Benaud's team is that it isn't restricted by the stupid 1 all rounder a team rule. And just as Marshall not making your team is a deal breaker for you, Imran not making an ATXI is a deal breaker for me. While Marshall is better bowler than Imran but Imran easily the better cricketer IMO.

 

[MrPrez]

CW my favourite, purely on the basis that it's the only one with the right bowling quartet. Hutton/Sutcliffe/Gavaskar is debatable for the second opening spot, and for the most part the middle orders of the teams are the same.

 

[kyear2]

The middle orders are all more or less the same with most of the teams and Sobers, Warne, Hobbs, Gilchrist and Marshall are all pretty much unanimous as well. So when one looks at it there are eight positions pretty much already filled for an ATG XI with just the second opener and second and third bowling spots up for grabs and debate.

 

[kyear2]

Geoff Armstrong
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Pollock, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, Barnes

Cricinfo
Hutton, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Akram, Warne, Lillee

Geoffrey Boycott
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Headley, Richards, Sobers, Knott, Marshall, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

Bleacher
Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Miller, Imran, Warne, Marshall, Barnes

Benaud
Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Imran, Gilchrist, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

CricketWeb
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, McGrath

Christopher Martin-Jenkins
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Richards, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Barnes, McGrath

Harsh Thakor
Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Akram, Marshall, Lillee

The Roar
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Richards, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Marshall, Lillee, McGrath

Wisden
Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Knott, Akram, Warne, Marshall, Barnes

Third Man Cricket
Gavaskar, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist, Akram, Warne, Marshall, McGrath

 

[OverratedSanity]

I've never understood how Gavaskar makes it into several people's teams ahead of Hutton