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*Official* English Football Season 2013-14

grecian

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Think his keks are a wee bit Rupert the Bear, myself but big wraps for your chaps, anyway:
The stanno stuff was best in there, many of our "fans" hate him though, and the way we're run.

Anyway this really hard bunch of fixtures for Man U still doing it's damage.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Very classy from your chaps that, aye.

It's a sad reflection of the times that one suspects not every club would've behaved with similar decency.

ManUre can't lose to the Mackems, surely? I know Di Canazio has gone, but they're just not very good.
 

grecian

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I know he's unfashionable, but Carrick makes such a difference to this United team, he's not Scholes but he's the closest thing to Scholes that England/united have.
 

Uppercut

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He's pretty fashionable these days. Has actually had a pretty poor season so far, like most of the team, but was back in form today.

Cleverley had a good game too, he was also quality against Shakhtar. There's an understanding there that Carrick and Fellaini blatantly don't have yet.

But all in all it wasn't really an improvement on recent performances, Sunderland were just too crap to punish it and Januzaj got us the points.
 

Neil Pickup

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The stanno stuff was best in there, many of our "fans" hate him though, and the way we're run.

Anyway this really hard bunch of fixtures for Man U still doing it's damage.
The "inverted commas" around fans being the key here. We are never going to mortgage the future away again, I hope, and with this it does mean that we're going to have a bad run here and there without the resources to panic-buy our way out. I trust Tisdale implicitly and whilst he is in charge I am confident that the positives will always outweigh the negatives. Constant criticism gets you nowhere.

Think I might look for PeteUSA's views on the goalkeeper issue...
 

Neil Pickup

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England expects ? quite wrongly - FT.com

Some interesting musings on the national side.
I read Soccernomics / Why England Lose a couple of years ago and it's an interesting read: one bit that sticks in the mind is the analysis of footballing strength being (over-)concentrated in post-industrial areas as opposed to semi-rural or traditionally better-off areas. Goes some way to explaining why places like the West Country, for all their population, don't (and arguably won't) support a top-level side.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The "inverted commas" around fans being the key here. We are never going to mortgage the future away again, I hope, and with this it does mean that we're going to have a bad run here and there without the resources to panic-buy our way out. I trust Tisdale implicitly and whilst he is in charge I am confident that the positives will always outweigh the negatives. Constant criticism gets you nowhere.

Think I might look for PeteUSA's views on the goalkeeper issue...

Indeed, mind you my comments towards Peteusa, are the only time on any forum, I've been infracted, so I have a warm glow towards him, he really must have something special.:wub:
 

grecian

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I read Soccernomics / Why England Lose a couple of years ago and it's an interesting read: one bit that sticks in the mind is the analysis of footballing strength being (over-)concentrated in post-industrial areas as opposed to semi-rural or traditionally better-off areas. Goes some way to explaining why places like the West Country, for all their population, don't (and arguably won't) support a top-level side.

Well it's a bit better than it used to be but when football wasn't at all trendy in the eighties, it was very marked how so many players came from footballing hotbeds like the north east/west, East london.

Think the fact there's a lot of money around now does help though.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Januzaj :wub:

Has grown so much as a player in the last year or so.

Wish now we get Daehli back in a year or 2 once he develops too. Those 2 were so great to watch together whenever they played for the Youth teams.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
He's pretty fashionable these days. Has actually had a pretty poor season so far, like most of the team, but was back in form today.

Cleverley had a good game too, he was also quality against Shakhtar. There's an understanding there that Carrick and Fellaini blatantly don't have yet.

But all in all it wasn't really an improvement on recent performances, Sunderland were just too crap to punish it and Januzaj got us the points.
Januzaj being in the team in a attacking sense is a improvement in itself a big improvement though slightly worryingly over the other options given their lack of form.

Vidic and Rooney who have been both pretty good this season had pretty poor games as well. RVP wasn't his usual self either.


Cleverley i thought was pretty poor in the first half. Grew more into the game 2nd half when Sunderland with their crazy pressing in the first half tired themselves out. He always seems to play better in a 3 man midfield like he did in Shakthar.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Player improving between the ages of 16 and 18, who would have thought?
Haha yep. Though some of them develop a bit slower than others and at different ages.

Januzaj seemed always talented and had a injury disrupted season when he first arrived at United but his rate of improvement last season was so rapid. Went straight from not even being the best Under 18 player consistently to the first team and looking like a potential star in 7/8 months.
 

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