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Predict Australia's 17 man squad for the first test in Australia

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
Agreed but recent history shows the selectors want an all rounder in the team. When Watson isn't fit or they don't want to risk him is when we see Faulkner/Henriques/Maxwell etc.

Faulkner playing at the Gabba probably is down to how Watson feels rather than Faulkner being a better option than a specialist batter.
 

Hooksey

Banned
Agreed but recent history shows the selectors want an all rounder in the team. When Watson isn't fit or they don't want to risk him is when we see Faulkner/Henriques/Maxwell etc.

Faulkner playing at the Gabba probably is down to how Watson feels rather than Faulkner being a better option than a specialist batter.
Australia have preferred to have a batting/bowling allrounder in the team for decades, but very rarely had anyone that truly warranted the position. Unfortunately that didn't stop the selectors choosing them :laugh:

I'd be extremely surprised if they only play 5 batsmen again at the Gabba.
 

chris.hinton

International Captain
The Aussie team for the first test (In my opinion) should be as follows :-

Rogers
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Smith
Haddin
Faulkner
Siddle
Pattinson
Harris
Lyon
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
Faulkner isn't test material. Haddin at 6 isn't smart. Gilly didn't bat that high yet with a weaker batting lineup you want the keeper at 6?
 

chris.hinton

International Captain
Whats wrong with him at 6, you not exactly get wall to wall talent of batsman its not like it was 10-15 years ago
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I would put Hughes at 3 and Watson at 6 ftr.

I still think Watson's a **** ****, but I can see how he's useful in terms of team balance.
 

Hooksey

Banned
I would put Hughes at 3 and Watson at 6 ftr.

I still think Watson's a **** ****, but I can see how he's useful in terms of team balance.
The previous 52 innings by Australian number 3 batsmen, prior to Watson's big 100 in the final test, had produced something like 8 x 50s and 1 x 100.

You don't wait that long for a solution and then go changing things again.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
The previous 52 innings by Australian number 3 batsmen, prior to Watson's big 100 in the final test, had produced something like 8 x 50s and 1 x 100.

You don't wait that long for a solution and then go changing things again.
Solution?? surely 1 good knock from Twatto in the troubled No3 spot does not = problems solved??
 

morgieb

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Solution?? surely 1 good knock from Twatto in the troubled No3 spot does not = problems solved??
He deserves the chance to prove that wrong though. I can't remember the last time someone scored a ton from #3.

If he flounders then whatever, but we shouldn't be messing around with our batting lineup for now.
 
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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Closest we've had to a solution at #3 for 52 test innings, and the reason Watson is a monty to bat at 3 at the Gabba.
The same Shane Watson who averaged 20-odd in his previous run at number 3 up until that point?

I agree with playing Watson at 3, FTR, but not for the same reasons. Clarke's a middle order bat, Smith's a middle order bat, if we pick a new batsman you shouldn't debut him at 3. We've basically got the bowling all-rounder batting at 3 to protect the middle order.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Look I don't disagree that he shouldn't bat 3 at the Gabba, all I was saying it's a bit early to be calling this a "solution"........when he's averaging +40 in the position over a period of time then you can say he's nailed down the spot. To me he is still only a couple of low scores away from "where they **** do we play him now" all over again.

It will be interesting to see if the Oval does end up being a turning point in Watsons career, will he repay the faith in the selectors and finally do some justice to the obvious talent that he has. I reckon he owes everyone at least 3 years of solid performances and (just my opinion) I don't think he's got it in him.............time will tell.
 

Maximas

Cricketer Of The Year
This order seems pretty good, while it's silly to say we're set, you wouldn't change the order now from 1-5
 

Hooksey

Banned
Look I don't disagree that he shouldn't bat 3 at the Gabba, all I was saying it's a bit early to be calling this a "solution"..
You "don't disagree that he shouldn't bat 3 at the Gabba"??

I take it that means you think he should bat at 3 at the Gabba?

The thread is titled : "Predict Australia's 17 man squad for the first test in Australia," and Watson is the solution at #3 for the 1st test. After that, like most others, his position will be reassessed.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Hooksey, I think you've completely missed the point of what Adders is saying there. He performed at The Oval at 3, so he should retain that spot. But one big innings does not a 'solution' make. Shaun Marsh made that ton on debut in Sri Lanka, and he most definitely was not a solution.
 

Maximas

Cricketer Of The Year
well, that depends on what sort of solution we're talking about, Watson is a short term solution, so we won't go into the first test thinking "who the **** will bat 3?", but as most people are saying, we will have to wait and see if he is a long term solution.
 

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