*Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

[the big bambino]

That article from Lehmann is ok. Just a bit of sledging. As for its timing, well if he said it earlier he'd be called a whinger. Say it now to stir up the home fans. Not that we'll have any trouble hating Broad.

 

[Prince EWS]

Cribb, are you laughing at Tangles, or did I accidentally make a joke?

I'm laughing at Tangles.

 

[Maximas]

you don't stir **** up by calling someone a "blatant cheater" IMO, that's a pretty serious accusation

 

[NUFAN]

Source?

None exactly. I didn't mean for it to sound as though I'm quoting the selection panel, it was more a combination of things throughout the series. Hughes starting at six and being dropped for a RH batsman, Khawaja coming in and struggling to spin, Wade's inability against spin in India and Clarke+Smith doing relatively well against Swann this series.

But Faulkner's not really a batsman. Its arguable the batting maybe stronger with Faulkner instead of an underperforming Cowan, Hughes, Ussie but the likely fix for our problems in the top order isn't coming from a bits and pieces all rounder who bats right handed.

You've never seen him bat so..

I haven't said Faulkner is the next Miller and a longterm solution btw, just saying its not a bad choice for a Test that doesn't ultimately mean much and sends a message to the dropped batsman that they need to perform.

Nah he made that up. Very typical NUFAN post. No-one is more obsessed with batting handedness than him. Not even Swann.

Ha, I wouldn't say I'm exactly obsessed with it.

So we picked Faulkner because we are that afraid of Swann? If true that means the NSP is as mentally weak as most of our batting lineup.

Not afraid of Swann exactly but not happy with Hughes, Khawaja, Cowan and maybe Wade's ability to handle him. I better stress that this is my thoughts and I haven't actually read or heard the selectors say this..

 

[benchmark00]

@fwildecricket: Mitchell Starc all formats for Australia in 2013:

P = Played
M = Missed

P P M P P P P P P P P M M M P M P M P M M P M P M P M P

Ashes

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[Prince EWS]

you don't stir **** up by calling someone a "blatant cheater" IMO, that's a pretty serious accusation

Yeah, exactly. That's not just standard banter, and the last thing the bogan faction of our fans and media need is another excuse to carry on about a batsman not walking, just because the umpire was blind enough to not give him out when it was really obvious. His pretty much blamed the poor umpiring on Broad; it's a joke article. Not only that but he completely undermined what Clarke said as well.

 

[Prince EWS]

Ha, I wouldn't say I'm exactly obsessed with it.

No you absolutely are.

 

[NUFAN]

Two extra points. Yes Rogers is left handed and he has done very well, I'm happy for him. If this Test was in Australia and during the Shield season I would not pick Faulkner. But its not, so I'm happy and looking forward to his debut.

 

[Spikey]

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Remember when he got dropped during the Champions Trophy?

 

[Maximas]

NUFAN: I think this left hander against Swann thing may change a little now, we have picked two left armers, who are going to run straight into where Swann will pitch the ball to RHs, although I've argued with mods over it I still think Swann is a significant threat to RHs this game with those footmarks, I hardly think Faulkner being a RHer is gonna help tbh.

 

[benchmark00]

Cowan isn't that bad against spin actually. Has one of the better game plans against it.

 

[the big bambino]

You've never seen him bat so..

I haven't said Faulkner is the next Miller and a longterm solution btw, just saying its not a bad choice for a Test that doesn't ultimately mean much and sends a message to the dropped batsman that they need to perform.

Still doesn't make him a batsmen. No message really sent when the batsman dropped knows it not a permanent selection policy.

As for Broad if he didn't cheat it was close. Cynical atleast. What he did makes the accusation plausible and is a consequence of it.

 

[Prince EWS]

NUFAN: I think this left hander against Swann thing may change a little now, we have picked two left armers, who are going to run straight into where Swann will pitch the ball to RHs, although I've argued with mods over it I still think Swann is a significant threat to RHs this game with those footmarks, I hardly think Faulkner being a RHer is gonna help tbh.

Argued with mods over it?

We don't make cricket posts as mods; they don't hold special significance.

 

[benchmark00]

Yeah, exactly. That's not just standard banter, and the last thing the bogan faction of our fans and media need is another excuse to carry on about a batsman not walking, just because the umpire was blind enough to not give him out when it was really obvious. His pretty much blamed the poor umpiring on Broad; it's a joke article. Not only that but he completely undermined what Clarke said as well.

Triple M's target market is bogans, was speaking exclusively to them.

I'll tell you what though, it puts pressure on his own players to walk. Almost ramming it down their gobs that they have two options:

a) walk, or;
b) don't walk and you're on your own.

 

[Maximas]

Argued with mods over it?

We don't make cricket posts as mods; they don't hold special significance.

I find the mods harder to argue with personally, it was also a bit of a disclaimer for you and the others not to swoop in on me over that again

 

[Prince EWS]

I find the mods harder to argue with personally

Really wish that wasn't the case. You only need to see as mods while we're moderating. We don't have extra stature while talking cricket.

 

[benchmark00]

No idea how Clarke is going to cycle through his bowlers.

 

[fredfertang]

To save me wading through the impenetrable bits of cricinfo, is there a good reason this game is starting on a Wednesday?

 

[Maximas]

Really wish that wasn't the case. You only need to see as mods while we're moderating. We don't have extra stature while talking cricket.

oh no it isn't that, it's just that the mods tend to have been here a while and are thus excellent posters, have the same problem with guys like Benchy and Son of Coco

 

[benchmark00]

To save me wading through the impenetrable bits of cricinfo, is there a good reason this game is starting on a Wednesday?

£3 pints at the Beehive every Wednesday.