DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen - The Top 25

[Howe_zat]

I guess the problem for DoG is that his system can't take a drastically changing wicket like a rained-on dog into account. From the scorecard alone the pitch in the 1928 looks pretty good, given there were 6 tons scored on it, one of which was a double. And England piled on the runs in that series in general.

 

[Howe_zat]

But frig, what a match that must have been like to see live. England look nailed on to chase 332 when they're 318/3. Then four wickets go for 10 runs. Hiding behind your hands time.

 

[uvelocity]

be done with that ******** Days of Grace asap. the higher his ranking goes, my respect for DoG's hard work diminishes proportionally

 

[kyear2]

Tendulkar?

knew I had forgotten someone.

Fixed.

 

[The Sean]

So, the lucky 13 remaining. Personally (today, anyway), I’d probably rank them:

Don Bradman
Jack Hobbs
Sachin Tendulkar
Garry Sobers
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Walter Hammond
Len Hutton
Greg Chappell
Ricky Ponting
George Headley
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkarra

However, I’m pretty sure there’s no way in hell that this is the order in which they’ll actually finish! In fact, if pressed I reckon Greg Chappell might actually be next up.

 

[Howe_zat]

Think Ponting will be a fair bit higher than Chappell, partly due to winning so much and partly because Chappell missed a lot of Tests.

 

[The Sean]

Yeah, my list was just how I'd personally rank them - agree with you that Ponting will probably come in well ahead of Chappell in this analysis.

 

[ankitj]

Bets on which 3 will just miss the top 10?

 

[MW1304]

Headley, Chappell and Sanga

 

[ankitj]

I'll go: Sangakkara, Chappell, Headley

Can't see Kallis missing out with his weight of runs even though most people opine that he doesn't belong in top 10. Same argument goes for Ponting, so Chappell likely to ranked lower. Choosing Headley because of a short career and not playing against great bowling attacks. Other than Sanga it will be tough on anyone to miss out though.

EDIT: Or same as MW

 

[Howe_zat]

Possibly Lara. Lost so many matches.

 

[smash84]

Lara should finish ahead of Headley (hopefully)

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah agreed, each situation is different and there's no question that batting selfishly just to get the red ink at the expense of helping your team should be judged harshly - particularly so if a batsman makes a habit of it. And of course there are the extreme examples of a lot of low not-out scores contributing to a very high average (Bill Johnston 1953, I'm looking at you here).

As a general rule though, I tend to disagree with the belief that not-outs somehow "artificially" inflate batting averages.

Yeah, there were a number of Kallis innings like that which led to the he is/was perceived by most cricket fans across the world... And Sachin's twin daddy hundreds at Sydney and Multan were similar too.. But with SRW, it did seem like more of a habit..

 

[kyear2]

Why is everyone rooting for Headley to finish outside of the top 10 (and previously top 20 for that matter)?

 

[centurymaker]

coz he played like 20 odd tests. No one deserves to finish this high based on such a small sample size in this statistical analysis

 

[Days of Grace]

And yet some peeps were disappointed that Pollock finished outside the top 20. Can't have it both ways.

 

[kyear2]

Guess we will all see shortly.

 

[Days of Grace]

13. Greg Chappell (Australia) (1970-1984)

Career Length (Days): 4770
Percentage of team's matches played: 73%
Career Average: 53.86
Adjusted career average: 53.11
Adjusted away average: 50.71
Adjusted top-opposition average: 51.98
Top Tier centuries: 6
Second tier centuries: 7
Third tier centuries: 11
Significant innings: 35
Significant innings per match: 0.40

Great innings: 4
2nd Test: England v Australia at Lord's, Jun 22-26, 1972 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 13.90
4th Test: Australia v West Indies at Sydney, Jan 3-7, 1976 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 17.77
1st Test: Australia v India at Sydney, Jan 2-4, 1981 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.46
3rd Test: New Zealand v Australia at Christchurch, Mar 19-22, 1982 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 19.43


Innings worth average: 3.56

25 Test peak adjusted average: 61.33 (1973-1977)
50 Test peak adjusted average: 55.90 (1972-1980)

Quality Points: 625
Career Points: 107
Peak Points: 137
TOTAL POINTS: 869


Even though he is ranked as high as no.13, there is a feeling that Greg Chappell should be higher in the list. WSC came along right at Chappell's peak, and the tests he missed during those two seasons, along with not playing as many away games as he could have done, probably cost him a place in the top 10. His peak itself is not outstanding. But he makes up for it with his sheer consistency over 14 years. His lowest adjusted average over 25 tests was 46.87.

 

[Days of Grace]

I guess the problem for DoG is that his system can't take a drastically changing wicket like a rained-on dog into account. From the scorecard alone the pitch in the 1928 looks pretty good, given there were 6 tons scored on it, one of which was a double. And England piled on the runs in that series in general.

Yes, you are correct. The innings in 1928/29 was rated 11.41.

 

[kyear2]

And yet some peeps were disappointed that Pollock finished outside the top 20. Can't have it both ways.

Wouldn't have been such a big deal if it were Pollock.