*Official* Second Test at Lord's

[GIMH]

Might well explain why he was so far below his best.

 

[Cabinet96]

Since the game was virtually done after Australia's batting on Friday, it's very, very dire that he picked up the injury after that.

 

[Maximas]

If Bird doesn't get picked now, I'll be pretty ****ing angry

 

[91Jmay]

Starc or Bird? Starc gives more variation but the rough he would create works massively in Englands favour.

 

[Top_Cat]

A little shocked that Lehmann has ruled out a call-up of Kateesh for TB considering his solid T20 form for Lancs.

 

[outbreak]

A little shocked that Lehmann has ruled out a call-up of Kateesh for TB considering his solid T20 form for Lancs.

rekon katich ruled it out himself, he didn't exactly leave quietly and from what I hear isn't happy with most players in the team and staff

 

[Burgey]

Starc or Bird? Starc gives more variation but the rough he would create works massively in Englands favour.

We've got a lot of lefties though. If Lyon plays the rough Starc creates might actually help our blokes as there are a lot more right handers in England's line up.

 

[NUFAN]

We've got a lot of lefties though. If Lyon plays the rough Starc creates might actually help our blokes as there are a lot more right handers in England's line up.

The issue with Starc is that he spends half the ****ing time bowling around the wicket! Okay, maybe not half, but he definitely does it more than he should if we are going to pick him to help Lyon.

 

[Cabinet96]

We've got a lot of lefties though. If Lyon plays the rough Starc creates might actually help our blokes as there are a lot more right handers in England's line up.

I almost think the rough negates the quality diffence in the spinners too (yeah, yeah, Lyon's better, but lets assume otherwise for now) Any decent spinner who puts some revs on the ball is going to cause issues when it lands in the rough. When there's nothing out there, that's when other factors and overall bowler skill plays apart. Obviously it's all irrelevant if Agar plays though.

 

[Black_Warrior]

So happy to see Ryan Harris come back after a long injury and grab 5 wickets. Hope he remains fit for a while now with Pattinson gone.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Surely the Ashes is the most lucrative event for both boards?

Indian series about quadruple the revenue of any other series for Australia.

 

[Biryani Pillow]

So happy to see Ryan Harris come back after a long injury and grab 5 wickets. Hope he remains fit for a while now with Pattinson gone.

Optimist.

He's an injury waiting to happen - as is Pattinson it appears.

And personally I feel that Pattinson's hype is ahead of the reality. In like for like conditions I'm content that Broad, Bresnan or Finn would beat him.

Maybe they have approached Katich and he's told them 'no way'. I would. He wouldn't bother England much anyway I reckon.

Clarke has to bat 4 - it's the only way Australia have a chance to control an innings.

Hughes can't open because he struggles with the ball into his ribs.

Watson shouldn't open but he'll throw his toys if he's moved down the order. An ego well above hiss achievements.

Smith is a number 8 pushed up the order - and a Club bowler.

If Agar had been (correctly) given out stumped early at Trent Bridge would he have played at Lords? I doubt he'll play at Old Trafford but Lyon won't worry England overmuch. They handled the Indian spinners - who outbowled Lion - well enough.

At some point Cook, Trott and (if fit) KP will get scores - and they tend to 'go big' when they do.

Taylor is in form and the obvious call if KP is out. Glad the "Compton should open, not Root' gang are silenced. Compton ain't that good.

If his bowling is going well this season Adil Rashid could be a lovely left field pick for Old Trafford. The Selectors have made to odd call like this. Rashid is a superior version of Smith.

If the relaid Old Trafford pitches are getting some of the old bounce back it could suit Finn more than Bresnan.

 

[Spark]

Ah yes another person who believes that two Tests are representative of a career.

 

[Biryani Pillow]

Ah yes another person who believes that two Tests are representative of a career.

Wrong.

I've watched him in his other Tests - and stand bymy view.

Unlike many here I am not a "What have you done for me lately?" type.

 

[Prince EWS]

Wrong.

I've watched him in his other Tests - and stand bymy view.

You watched him in his other ten Tests, in which he took 40 wickets @ 23 bowling fast, hostile outswingers, and you think Finn and Bresnan would "beat him in like for like conditions"?

At this point I actually think it'd be far less embarrassing for you if you hadn't seen him play those games than if you had and still thought that. Your post really was just full of annoying, untrue cliches about a variety of players.

 

[Biryani Pillow]

You watched him in his other ten Tests, in which he took 40 wickets @ 23 bowling fast, hostile outswingers, and you think Finn and Bresnan would "beat him in like for like conditions"?

At this point I actually think it'd be far less embarrassing for you if you hadn't seen him play those games than if you had and still thought that. Your post really was just full of annoying, untrue cliches about a variety of players.

Oh dear.

Oh dear.

 

[Prince EWS]

It pretty much just reads like you wrote the post in 2010.

 

[Spikey]

ive always said finn forever pattinson never

 

[Biryani Pillow]

It pretty much just reads like you wrote the post in 2010.

Naw.

Australia are worse now.

I've seen many an Aussie bigging up their players for no good reason in the last couple of years. Some wiser Aussies (largely pretty good Club players who know something) have seen this as well.

 

[Spark]

Holy ****, you really haven't watched any cricket Australia have played since the last Ashes, have you?