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*Official* Second Test at Lord's

superkingdave

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Don't see OT as being a 2 spinners pitch, we have only picked 2 spinners there once this season I think, and that was more because it was an absolute road than because it was turning.
 
Hurricane

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Riggins said:
england took the extra half hour to finish the game off. hypothetically, had they not taken the wicket, and we somehow batted out day 5, would stumps be 30 minutes earlier?
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Yes. Short answer - long answer below

The umpires may decide to play 30 minutes (a minimum of eight
overs) extra time at the end of any day (other than the last day) if
requested by either captain if, in the umpires opinion, it would bring
about a definite result on that day [this is in addition to the additional
time provided for in clause 16.1.3 above]. If the umpires do not believe
a result can be achieved no extra time shall be allowed.
If it is decided to play such extra time on one or more of these
days, the whole period shall be played out even though the
possibility of finishing the match may have disappeared before the
full period has expired.
Only the actual amount of playing time up to the maximum 30
minutes extra time by which play is extended on any day shall be
deducted from the total number of hours of play remaining, and
the match shall end earlier on the final day by the amount of time
by which play was previously extended under this clause.
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http://static.icc-cricket.com/ugc/d...D768E4902737F0ACA2E856B_1352699203813_266.pdf
 
Maximas

Maximas

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm only looking forward to the next test cos Warne is going to be measured on the rev counter, then again, they might not show that in Australia and instead have ****ing BJ and Blewett bull****ting back in the studio
 
morgieb

morgieb

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Maximas said:
I'm only looking forward to the next test cos Warne is going to be measured on the rev counter, then again, they might not show that in Australia and instead have ****ing BJ and Blewett bull****ting back in the studio
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Watch it on Channel 9 yo.
 
9

91Jmay

International Coach
social said:
You really have to accept that the English team, whilst a good professional outfit, does have its weaknesses and it is childish in the extreme that you chuck the toys out of your pram whenever anyone dares to post anything that is even remotely akin to criticism.

BTW, why compare Smith to Root as the former barely bowls enough to be classified as a part-timer anymore?

If you took off your English specs for a minute, you'd know that
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Of course England has weaknesses, they aren't a great side or even the best team in the world. They are a very good outfit though and Joe Root's bowling is better than part time, anyone who's seen him do it regularly knows that.
 
Backlash

Backlash

School Boy/Girl Captain
the big bambino said:
You got flack over your comments abt the scheduling of the ashes but I want to say now I agreed with you. I don't think you were saying we should avoid playing better sides. Just that we shouldn't schedule series to our disadvantage. We signed up for an ambush out of marketing greed. We could have used the time btwn series to better prepare ourselves for the rematch here. That wont happen now.

There's an article in cricinfo that is finally asking the questions that should have been put to CA years ago and Sutherland specifically. It raises the neglect of grade and fc cricket, which coincided under the selectionship of Hilditch. The state of fc pitches and its detrimental impact on batsmanship while over rating bowling form. The pay structure discriminating against fc performers. To that I'd add the woeful scheduling of the ashes up to 2019. All for short term profit at the expense of the game.

I'm concluding that Sutherland knows little of cricket or business. Outside of being a short term raider I mean. He is able to exploit what others have built for short term profit but the expense of organisation's future. This, in his mind, justifies his salary. What he and those who "market" the game don't get is that its income might come from short form cricket but its brand is test cricket. That is the format which gives the game credibility, the standard players most respect and where the skills fo the game are are expressed at its highest level. If you don't have a respectable test team no one gives a stuff if the sydney thundersticks or who the **** ever, wins the bbl.

Unfortunately it is also the game's most costly to run and hardest to justify in return for outlay terms. But its a necessary cost just like you need costly patrols in a security business to provide the service your customers are actually paying for. Let test cricket and its supporting structure run down you just might trigger a crisis in the game resembling the situation we are currently in. This is the worst Aussie side I've seen. We had reasons explaining our poor sides in the late 70s and mid 80s and then reasons for hope we'd improve. I don't see any inclination to improve our test side now and in fact administration has done its best to put off the issue. Dazzle us with red herrings like Argus. Talk abt cycles and so on. All of it is proof that they've neglected the standard of cricket in Australia while pimping the game for as much as they can. Its an appalling neglect and things wont improve as long as we have Sutherland shrugging his shoulders when asked what he intends to do.
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Some people are starting to see the light.

What we are seeing is not some cycle, what we are seeing is a whole sport from top to bottom that has been neglected and allowed to decay for years.

It's not about winning games of Cricket or what's best for Cricket's future, it's all about the all mighty dollar to these people, to this organization.

First Class and Test Cricket are an afterthought, something they can milk for a little while longer until it's dry.

Everything is gearing towards 20/20 Cricket in this country. It's impossible to see how Test Cricket is going to survive here on the path it's on and when it's gone here, the Ashes will follow and the rest of Test Cricket will crumble sadly. Give it another 10 or 15 years until 20/20 has fully sunk into a whole generation, then we'll see the full affects. At this point I firmly believe the Ashes and Test Cricket will be gone in my lifetime.

Greed has destroyed this sport.
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Riggins said:
england took the extra half hour to finish the game off. hypothetically, had they not taken the wicket, and we somehow batted out day 5, would stumps be 30 minutes earlier?
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Don't you get an extra half hour on day five normally or have I just pulled that out of my arse?

Can't actually think of game that's gone the duration which didn't have lost play so that could be what I'm thinking of
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Though I don't remember any lost sessions in the drawn Tests away to windies 09 though there may have been overs lost due to rates. I dunno. Someone tell me the rules FFS riggins has asked a vital question
 
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