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*Official* First Test at Trent Bridge
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biased indian
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if Australia make a good chase... i see that being broken
Good post. There is also the point that (with the exception of no balls) an umpire's concentration for most of the delivery exclusively focussed on the narrow area surrounding the batsman, for which they are allowed a completely unhindered view. When concentrating solely on one thing it can be difficult to switch focus to something else, and views will often be hindered. Wicketkeepers to fast bowlers are also often at least double the distance away as well. You'd like to think they should always get it right, but they have more excuse for getting it wrong.
The one area where i think not walking and falsely claiming catches is similar is when batsmen make wilful efforts to deceive the umpire. It is one thing to stand your ground passively, another to make excessive (misleading) gestures to try and influence the decision eg. waving the bat on LBWs when there's no contact, shaking your head vigorously on appeals for catches etc. Although you can't do much about more subtle forms of influence.
Backlash
School Boy/Girl Captain
Who didn't see what happened yesterday coming? England batting out the day and batting us out of the game. This one is done and dusted. The first 2 days of this test will probably be the closest Cricket we'll see over the next 10 games too.
So that's 5 losses in a row now. First time in nearly 30 years, though that was against the Great West Indies team. The record is 7, will the boys give it a real crack?
So that's 5 losses in a row now. First time in nearly 30 years, though that was against the Great West Indies team. The record is 7, will the boys give it a real crack?
morgieb
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Still better than Wade. At least he holds on to most opportunities.
The Battlers Prince
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My favourite keeper once said that any wicket he cost he had to make the runs with his own bat, but he wasn't a good batsmen so he worked non stop on his keeping. Except when he was drinking. But since Haddin dropped Bell aside from other half chances, he looks as though he has a fair few runs to catch up to break even.
The Battlers Prince
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Yeah he is a step above Wade. Its a bit of a shame we had Gilly in its own way. Because now when we need a good keeper they're still looking for keeper batsmen. Perhaps we bring Gilly back until we find a suitable replacement?
wpdavid
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It did cross my mind that Dar decided to give us a break after what had happened previously wrt Agar, Root and Trott. In some ways the Agar decision was actually worse as it was made by the 3rd umpire, although Dar's may be the worst real time decision I have ever seen. I'd be embarrassed missing that in my son's Under 11 games.
Anyway, as has already been said, this is shaping up to be a magnificent test match.
And I didn't think Bell had it in him to bat like he did yesterday, so all credit to him.
hendrix
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TBH I'd rather the keeper gets the the ball and drops it then make a "valiant" dive.
IMO, the ball shouldn't go between keeper and slip very often. The keeper should be able to dive in front of first slip if the ball is dying. Clarke was quite wide, yes, but I don't think he was that much wider than standard. And it's not like the ball changed direction where it was heading down leg or anything. Haddin needed to be covering the line. Yes, he still probably would have had to dive, but it should've been a lot easier than that.
We had this problem with Kruger van Wyk keeping. Suddenly Ross Taylor at first slip - who is a very capable slip fielder - was reacting late and dropping catches on his inside shoulder - they were really the keeper's catch but Kruger just didn't have the footwork to get there. Despite the fact he never "dropped" any, he cost the team a lot of wickets.
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The Battlers Prince
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wow, I've seen those happen with spinners a few times but never a pace bowler
HeathDavisSpeed
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It's just brilliant the way Andre Adams doesn't even put up the slightest attempt at an appeal. Scratches his nose, Flintoff is given out. Adams scratches his head and the celebrations start.
Burgey
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Tbf there is 20 years worth of decisions where people think a bloke is out stumped or run out but because there isn't a frame available at the precise moment the bail lifts completely, it isn't given.
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Ruckus
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haha the umpire must have had a stroke
Burgey
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Both keepers in his test have been diving about a lot more than usual because of the lack of bounce in wicket combined with some lateral movement through (mostly) latish swing.
