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*Official* Road to 2013 Ashes
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dermo
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Spikey
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Invers has just said they could bring Smith in. I have little faith they'll willingly do that. They'll willingly call in Ahmed, but they couldn't've picked Ahmed a month ago. They could have picked Smith. I feel Clarke's recovery will have to hit a set-back for Smith to get called.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
Smith surely in more form and favour than Watson.
Surely.
Just pick eight batsmen for the two FC games, the bowlers will be ok.
Surely.
Just pick eight batsmen for the two FC games, the bowlers will be ok.
Spark
Global Moderator
warner though
Maximas
Cricketer Of The Year
Wow, I never thought I'd see Australian fans desperate to see Smith come into an Ashes squad, but he really has improved and I hope he gets a go. Not sure if I'd prefer a 4/5-0 loss which forces a clean-up of the team or a 2-1 loss where Watson/Warner/Lyon/Haddin have mediocre (but not bad enough to be dropped) series' and they do a similar thing in the Aussie summer.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Looks like Australia might win something after all - the hyperbole war:
BBC Sport - Australia have world's best bowling attack, says Mickey Arthur
BBC Sport - Australia have world's best bowling attack, says Mickey Arthur
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Sad thing is that I don't think it's far off at all and I still don't rate the side in general - shows how bad the batting situation is.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
That and your keeper is terrible.
But yeah Australia's batting is well and truely woeful, Rogers I tihnk will go okay, Cowan too maybe but aside from that I can see the bowlers being more useful batsman than some of the players.
Should be imo
Cowan
Rogers
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Bailey
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Lyon
Bird
Although I think possibly for Trent Bridge you could swap out Lyon for another seamer depending on the pitch.
But yeah Australia's batting is well and truely woeful, Rogers I tihnk will go okay, Cowan too maybe but aside from that I can see the bowlers being more useful batsman than some of the players.
Should be imo
Cowan
Rogers
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Bailey
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Lyon
Bird
Although I think possibly for Trent Bridge you could swap out Lyon for another seamer depending on the pitch.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
I think I missed something.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
And this is why Australian cricket is truly in the ****...........their coach has clearly lost the plot.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Who are these bowlers??
Harris played 12 tests ave 23........Hasn't played a test match in 14 months and is likely to break down at any stage.
Bird played 2 tests ave of 16............he's played 2 test matches mate.
Patto, a whopping 10 tests to his name and an ave of 23.
So you're selling yourself short, you have 3x 23 ave and under bowlers.........a cripple and 2 noobs.
Anyone that says that bowling line up is the best in the world needs medical attention and fast.
What they are is a bowling unit with a lot of potential and one day Mickey might be able to call them the best in the world, but right now that is a ridiculous comment. They are nowhere near it until they prove themselves.over time and in a variety of conditions. Don't get me wrong, I rate them all highly but lets keep a bit of perspective here. It would be like me claiming Joe Root to be the best ODI batsmen in the world........utter crap.
Maximas
Cricketer Of The Year
While you have a point Adders, I think Patto represents more than just a noob with beginners luck, 5/90 odd on a dead track in India shows he isn't just a greentop bully. Anyway, it's not as if the world's best bowling attack is some magic bowling line-up either, SA struggled in Australia and somewhat in England, while the English fast bowlers often bowl like **** for extended periods (seriously, Stuart Broad, Finn and Bresnan hardly have batsmen shaking in their boots - most of the time). I would say Mickey isn't quite right, the SA fast bowlers are better, but not by much.
howardj
International Coach
I agree very much with this article Daniel Brettig: Clarke's Ashes squad fragmented | Cricket News | Australia in England - The Investec Ashes | ESPN Cricinfo
There is no sense of team with the Aussies
It permeates throughout the whole system:
- Rotations
- Adding players to the squad
- Having guys not in the one location
Shane Warne’s manifesto earlier this year was complete rubbish, but he did make one good point – that you have to have familiarity with the other guys in the team; you have to have a sense of team
There is no sense of team with the Aussies
It permeates throughout the whole system:
- Rotations
- Adding players to the squad
- Having guys not in the one location
Shane Warne’s manifesto earlier this year was complete rubbish, but he did make one good point – that you have to have familiarity with the other guys in the team; you have to have a sense of team
the big bambino
International Captain
David Saker and Mickey Arthur are world class bull artists.