***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013

[Spark]

Agree, but this is day 2.

(and additional context is that we've played 4 seamers on a relatively flat wicket down 0-1 in the series)

You know what I mean. One session into the match, if you've taken 3 wickets and not gone at 4+ an over, you've had a very good time of it.

 

[Pothas]

There's a difference between having the ascendency in the game and having the better of a session.

In the first session? Is there?

 

[Prince EWS]

In the first session? Is there?

I think hendrix showed exactly what the difference is with his posts about it tbh.

New Zealand clearly had the better of the session; they knocked over England's top three for 67. The fact that the game has already lost a day and that NZ are 1-0 down in the last Test means they still aren't in what you'd call a particularly good position but that's due to factors independent of the cricket played during that session. Especially once he added team composition and quality into the mix.

New Zealand were behind the eight ball before a ball was even bowled, and those factors don't really come into deciding who won the session because they happened outside it.

 

[hendrix]

yeah, that's correct I suppose.

I should have said initially that while it's a good session, it doesn't put us on top because of the match and series situation.

 

[Pothas]

I think hendrix showed exactly what the difference is with his posts about it tbh.

New Zealand clearly had the better of the session; they knocked over England's top three for 67. The fact that the game has already lost a day and that NZ are 1-0 down in the last Test means they still aren't in what you'd call a particularly good position but that's due to factors independent of the cricket played during that session. Especially once he added team composition and quality into the mix,

New Zealand were behind the eight ball before a ball was even bowled, and those factors don't really come into deciding who won the session because they happened outside it.

Yeah I see what you are saying but I would still say that New Zealand are clearly in the ascendency here. The fact that the weaknesses in their side means that they might not capitalise on it does not change the fact. If Bangladesh took 5 wickets on the first morning of a test they would be in the ascendency, even if we all know they are still going to lose.

 

[wpdavid]

You know what I mean. One session into the match, if you've taken 3 wickets and not gone at 4+ an over, you've had a very good time of it.

Well quite - I don't really see why anyone is arguing with that. To add some context, our two most adhesive batmen have departed, two of the remainder of the top 6 are new to the side and the other one is Ian Bell. Throw in the fact that, apart from Prior, out lower middle order haven't lived up to reputation for some while now and this is as good as NZ could reasonably have expected. They have a more than decent chance of dismissing us for under 250 and then we'll see if their batmen can seal the deal this time.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Boult cashing in all his luck savings today. Got away with some real tripe without consequence.

 

[social]

Boult cashing in all his luck savings today. Got away with some real tripe without consequence.

Been pretty disappointing today from what I've seen as he's been well down on pace and overall a bit meh

 

[Bahnz]

Beautiful over from Southee.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

His pace has been fine, the consistency just hasn't been there

Southee been hogging the gun reserves

 

[grecian]

Brilliant delivery there, would have to be Bradman to nick it.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Ffs what is wrong with boult today

 

[Bahnz]

He still has his off days. He was dreadful at Wellington back in March, and was equally wayward on day 1 at Cape Town. That last over was particularly dreadful though.

 

[Spark]

Gee that's quality bowling. Out, out, out, then comes back in.

And looks gone for mine.

 

[Spark]

Wow. That's a surprise.

 

[Howe_zat]

Crap decision. I could tell it was not out from half a mile away.

 

[Prince EWS]

I actually wouldn't have given it live, due to height, but I had a feeling it might end up Umpire's Call. Right outcome anyway IMO.

 

[Howe_zat]

Wow. That's a surprise.

Really? Bell is not small and hit him well above the knee roll

 

[Prince EWS]

Crap decision. I could tell it was not out from half a mile away.

Go to the game Howe.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Burgey probably kicked his cat after seeing Bell get a reprieve.