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***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013
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hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Whether more familiar or not, they both had the easiest batting conditions possible in New Zealand, and Compton cashed in.
Purely by aesthetically judging their techniques, Root looks better equipped to score runs in English conditions with the ball moving around a bit more than Compton.
Compton (like Fulton, and basically all the NZ batsmen barring Taylor and Brownlie) will find it much more difficult.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think we played anywhere near our best cricket in NZ and the Kiwis played very well and were no doubt the better side over the 3 tests. That's the only series I'll say were we were "off our game".
India - Excellent performance with both bat and ball.
South Africa - Are simply a much better side than Eng and beat us.
West Indies - Those writing Broad and Bresnan off should look back at this series. Both were excellent and this was less than 12 months ago.
Sri Lanka - Hard to really judge how they went here.....hate 2 test series. Terrible in the first, dominant in the second. If there was a third test and we won it, it would have been a good series performance.......if we'd have lost it, it would have been poor. Juries out on this one for mine.
Pakistan - Terrible. But undone by some unbelievably great spin bowling. It is easy to forget how well our bowlers went in this series though......they certainly did their job.
So all this leads me to believe that whilst we aren't a great side by any means and certainly not as strong as 2010/11.......we certainly shouldn't be concerned with our opposition this summer.
Edit:
My apologies, that last sentence had some Aussieesque arrogance about it!!
What I obviously mean is that we will rightly be favourites going into both series, if we play anywhere close to our potential then we will win. But having said that both NZ and the Aussies are capable of taking advantage if we are off our game and not up for the contest.
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I think Aussie are but England at home will be heavy favourites to beat us. Our best chance is if Tim Southee finds his SL form in England and takes a series of 5fers.
I also suspect the Parker report will have unsettled the NZ dressing room and Taylor's mind set. I will be surprised if he comes off in the series. Really for Ross to start playing well again it will take some great leadership from BMac to settle him into the side and get him re-focused. I hope Brendon can do that for him because I doubt the coach will based on newspaper reports.
If Ross is allowed to he should take his wife on tour for support.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
The dude scored a century and a 75 after being told he wasn't good enough by his coach.
The good thing about scoring runs is that you only have to focus on scoring runs.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Lions team announced for game against NZ.
Pretty strong team
England Lions team to face New Zealand at Grace Road:
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Ravi Bopara (Essex)
Michael Carberry (Hampshire)
Varun Chopra (Warwickshire)
Simon Kerrigan (Lancashire)
Graham Onions (Durham)
Toby Roland-Jones (Middlesex)
Joe Root (captain, Yorkshire)
James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
Chris Wright (Warwickshire)
Pretty strong team
England Lions team to face New Zealand at Grace Road:
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Ravi Bopara (Essex)
Michael Carberry (Hampshire)
Varun Chopra (Warwickshire)
Simon Kerrigan (Lancashire)
Graham Onions (Durham)
Toby Roland-Jones (Middlesex)
Joe Root (captain, Yorkshire)
James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
Chris Wright (Warwickshire)
KungFu_Kallis
International 12th Man
The Ravi love saga continues 
Jezroy
State Captain
More than one source today saying that Guptill in line for a middle order spot - ie. Not that he will have one, but that's what he is in the squad for.
And considering Taylor and McCullum will be in India and miss the first tour game, makes it kind of obvious that he will get that one at least.
And considering Taylor and McCullum will be in India and miss the first tour game, makes it kind of obvious that he will get that one at least.
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Lions to win?
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
ffuuuuuuuuuuu this is awful news.
we have so many better middle order batsmen who deserve a chance more than him. He failed at test level. Go back to domestic level and get better. It's that simple.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
They've arrived already.
Don't mind Guptill getting some game time. Will be a useful opportunity for him ahead of the odi's.
Will rage so hard if he gets selected ahead of Brownlie though.
Jezroy
State Captain
Can still see it happening TBH, if Deano has a bad game first up and Guppy has a good one. I get the feeling that they think Guppy is a good team man to have (especially in the field). Not saying that I don't feel like Brownlie isn't. And I have no evidence to support my claims.
Just saying.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
You get the impression it's do or die for Brownlie this series (even first match). Just doesn't have that aura to him I guess, despite being more reliable than Guptill. You get the impression Guptill fits in with a marketing strategy for NZ cricket while Brownlie isn't the kind of guy who is going to feature in ads with Taylor, Vettori, and McCullum for SkyTV...
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
what I don't get is that Guptill hasn't even played any first-class cricket since South Africa.
He's done absolutely nothing to be given another opportunity. There are plenty of batsmen who scored good domestic runs who deserve a chance more than him. Flynn scored runs on return to domestic cricket. Neil Broom. Latham etc etc etc
He's done absolutely nothing to be given another opportunity. There are plenty of batsmen who scored good domestic runs who deserve a chance more than him. Flynn scored runs on return to domestic cricket. Neil Broom. Latham etc etc etc
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Last year I saw MG getting off a plane on the way to the Windies. So I wished him well and he gave me a meaningful "thanks man". Dean Brownlie and BJ Watling were standing beside him and they looked nervous that me the fan might engage with them and they avoided eye contact. 
Based on this meaningless encounter Guptil has my full support over Brownlie.
Based on this meaningless encounter Guptil has my full support over Brownlie.
The only plunkett shield game he was remotely available for while not tied up with NZ or Injured was on the 30th of Jan, 4 days after the last ODI in RSA, no other players from the ODI squad played that round, not even as substitutes, iirc at a management directive.
And he was dropped by Derby for Chanderpaul, it is a bit hard to compete with Chanders especially when he is available for the full county season.
Hopefully the time off has allowed him to improve his technique.