***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

[social]

I mean in general from games played elsewhere too. He's lethal when it's hooping but he hasn't shown any ability to just plug away in the corridor and go at under 3 an over when things aren't happening which you need from your frontline quicks.

The problem for Australia is that the guys who should be restricting the scoring rate arent good enough to do so and that makes attacking bowlers like Starc look like crap when they dont bowl well

 

[Daemon]

The problem for Australia is that the guys who should be restricting the scoring rate arent good enough to do so and that makes attacking bowlers like Starc look like crap when they dont bowl well

lol, no. there's been so many times where he just comes in and releases all the pressure created by any of the other bowlers. even when he got that 5-fer recently he bowled rubbish for most of the innings. can't blame that on others.

 

[benchmark00]

lol, no. there's been so many times where he just comes in and releases all the pressure created by any of the other bowlers. even when he got that 5-fer recently he bowled rubbish for most of the innings. can't blame that on others.

No. Starc goes for runs because he bowls full and when it doesn't swing it just looks like half volleys. He doesn't bowl rubbish, what he's bowling is quite deliberate, it's just he's aggressive so when it doesn't work it looks bad.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Decent comeback this from the Aussies.

 

[Daemon]

No. Starc goes for runs because he bowls full and when it doesn't swing it just looks like half volleys. He doesn't bowl rubbish, what he's bowling is quite deliberate, it's just he's aggressive so when it doesn't work it looks bad.

bowling non swinging half volleys is what i call rubbish

 

[social]

For a series that India has so clearly dominated, it's funny how India has collapsed in every innings. Goes to show that against a better bowling attack we would continue to struggle even in India.

Most of your guys have poor techniques against the seamers but have gotten away with it here due to some poor bowling and pitches that dont suit the pacemen

Could be very ugly in SA

 

[Spikey]

i assume clarke going on and off the field is not good

 

[benchmark00]

bowling non swinging half volleys is what i call rubbish

Well it's not. Bowling something which has no chance of doing anything is rubbish. Pitching it full and trying to get it to swing, which is what he is, a swing bowler, is not rubbish.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

The problem for Australia is that the guys who should be restricting the scoring rate arent good enough to do so and that makes attacking bowlers like Starc look like crap when they dont bowl well

Just because a bowler is attacking doesn't give them a license to be a leaking pipe. It's about knowing when to pull the length back a touch and use a little patience rather than trying to bowl a magic ball every delivery which Starc has clearly been guilty of.

 

[Top_Cat]

bowling non swinging half volleys is what i call rubbish

This is a really short sighted way of looking at it.

 

[social]

bowling non swinging half volleys is what i call rubbish

Ball swung around in the first over with this new ball and he took 2 wickets

Since then it has hardly moved but you cannot blame Starc if he continues to pitch it up and gets driven

It is far worse to be an off spinner that bowls full-tosses and long hops

 

[ajdude]

thought siddle was a vegan, what a ****

 

[Cevno]

Jadeja's batting average is below Ojha now.

 

[Daemon]

This is a really short sighted way of looking at it.

if the ball's not swinging and he knows it, he's deliberately bowling non lethal half volleys. he has no plan b to fall back on and thus keeps bowling rubbish.

not to mention he doesn't actually bowl full as consistently as benchmark is making it out to be.

go see his pitch maps from his tests thus far. I recall him being especially all over the shop in the first innings in chennai.

 

[Teja.]

Why the **** are we playing out the draw now already?

 

[LongHopCassidy]

Great, another reason to hate Virat Kohli.

 

[Cevno]

Yeah, he is like Umesh Yadav in a way.

Don't think his control is very consistent either.

 

[benchmark00]

In Chennai he bowled about 90% of his balls as yorkers! You just haven't seen as much of him as people who follow Australian cricket have. If you're looking for short and wide merchants then you're talking about Johnson. Just because they're both left armrest it doesn't mean they're the same people.

 

[Top_Cat]

if the ball's not swinging and he knows it, he's deliberately bowling non lethal half volleys. he has no plan b to fall back on and thus keeps bowling rubbish.

not to mention he doesn't actually bowl as full consistently as benchmark is making it out to be.

go see his pitch maps from his tests thus far. I recall him being especially all over the shop in the first innings in chennai.

Still missing the point. If you have a young bloke bowling for swing, the last thing you want is for him to back off and bowl dry when he's not done it much. That takes years of experience to develop and he'll get there eventually but right now, all that'll happen will be that he'll destroy any chance he has of taking wickets, the bats will get used to the predictability of what he sends down and then they'll take to him. Even if he is bowling quick.

Swing's a bit of an ethereal thing too; because it's not directly caused by the bowler (you only point the seam in the direction you want, whether it goes or not is out of your control), there's a bit of faith required and even if every ball isn't swinging, especially with a leftie, it's worth still going for it because it only takes one to go even a bit and that's a tough ball to negotiate which, if it doesn't get the **** out, will raise doubt in his mind. The point at which you realise that you might want to back off is a judgement call which, as I said, takes a long time to figure out.

Right now, going for swing is his best chance of taking Test wickets. He'll pick up all the subtle variation stuff as time goes by like everyone else. Figuring all that out in a match is definitely not the place to do it either.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

So, if Clarke's out next Test, who's our captain...?