Prince EWS
Global Moderator
From this point, I actually think it's more interesting to see if I rate Steyn ahead of McGrath by the time he retires. I doubt it, but it's certainly possible.
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Dale Steyn vs Allan Donald vs Shaun Pollock
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uvelocity
International Coach
this is what scares me too. can't really see it happening though
SFB
Cricket Spectator
Donald, forever and always. He IMO was the complete package as a bowler (furious pace, raw fury [attitude], line and length). Steyn always seems to be putting it on when he tries to verbal batsmen; Donald on the other hand used to roar at batsmen and team mate alike. His reaction to Boucher dropping Atherton during their infamous duel in '98 never fails to cheer me up on a bad day.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Of course. How do you think Daren Powell played so many Tests?
Days of Grace
International Captain
Getting sick of this. How much does Steyn have to do to overtake Donald in some poster's eyes?
800 wickets at 18 at 7 wickets per match enough?
No, because Donald came first and I watched him in my childhood.
800 wickets at 18 at 7 wickets per match enough?
No, because Donald came first and I watched him in my childhood.
kyear2
International Coach
That would be pretty coolthough.
Seriously though, it's all up to everyone's different criteria, and how they view different factors like strength of opposition, agression ect.
morgieb
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He also had far more friendly pitches though. Works both ways.
Coronis
International Coach
Only one man could take 7 wickets per match, and he will never be equalled.
Never heard of McGrath, Akram and Ambrose? Not to mention two of the greatest spinners to ever play the game, but, thats apples and oranges.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Rubbish. The only team whose batting was "significantly better," as you put it, was Australia's, and even then the lineup of 2008/09 which Steyn bowled to was not that much poorer than the 90s lineups that Donald bowled at, and largely failed against.
England much better in the Steyn-era. Sri Lanka, India, West Indies largely the same; New Zealand slightly weaker.
Couple that with the pitches being better for batting and the teammates he is competing for wickets with, and you will come to the conclusion that Steyn is better.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
I think the standard of cricket, particularly batsmanship, remains the same throughout eras.
If you magically put Trumper, McCabe, Harvey, Steve Waugh and Clarke in to each others eras, against each eras opposition, with time to adapt to fitness levels and pitch variance, they would all average a similar amount to each other.
However, my comment was merely that when Donald started his career, there were a number of batting line ups in the world that are stronger than the ones Steyn has bowled at recently.
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marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
McGrath every day of the week.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Add Waqar and Wasim to that list.
akilana
International 12th Man
Ya he along with Donald were the best bowlers of that period, imo.
Akram is massively over rated.