**Official** New Zealand in South Africa

[Scaly piscine]

Forty-five?

Heh yep.

It reminds of the Vidiprinter and how when there's a football score above six they write the word out in letters so when it comes up on screen instead of 7-0 they put 7 (seven) - 0. They should do that with cricket scores below 100.

 

[Cabinet96]

Heh yep.

It reminds of the Vidiprinter and how when there's a football score above six they write the word out in letters so when it comes up on screen instead of 7-0 they put 7 (seven) - 0. They should do that with cricket scores below 100.

I like it.

 

[Jamee999]

I started watching about twenty minutes ago, and had been trying to work out why there had only been 55 overs. Had it rained? It's really sunny.

 

[Zinzan]

Lol, so Chris Martin bowls 115-125kms now?

 

[Satyanash89]

Well played Peterson

 

[Kippax]

Lol, so Chris Martin bowls 115-125kms now?

Yep Mike did say he was way down in pace even on our gun for Auckland.

 

[Jono]

This is a paddlin'.

Nz fans what hurts more, today or McGrath scoring a 50 against your boys?

 

[Kippax]

Personally not really panicking or hurting now tbh, the ****pit got jumped four weeks ago.

"Earn the Right to be Aggressive" - McCullum (c) - YouTube

 

[SeamUp]

I was doing some thinking.

Were New Zealand batsmen that bad today ?

I know we can question whether some have the technique to handle this sort of attack where it does a little bit but do you take it as a positive that most of the wickets were taken due to good bowling by the opposition.

I don't think too many of the batsmen got out to bad deliveries.

Brendan McCullum may have suffered due to an average technique but a couple of away-swingers then a beuty of an in-nipper got through the gate? How much different is Kane Williamson getting a similar delivery but going out LBW instead for example?

 

[Teja.]

I was doing some thinking.

Were New Zealand batsmen that bad today ?

I know we can question whether some have the technique to handle this sort of attack where it does a little bit but do you take it as a positive that most of the wickets were taken due to good bowling by the opposition.

I don't think too many of the batsmen got out to bad deliveries.

Brendan McCullum may have suffered due to an average technique but a couple of away-swingers then a beuty of an in-nipper got through the gate? How much different is Kane Williamson getting a similar delivery but going out LBW instead for example?

I reckon the bowling was absolutely excellent today and Philander would have taken 3-4 wickets against most teams in those overs he bowled but you'd have a chance of one quality bat standing up and getting the team to a decent score if bowling against a better team IMO.

To quote 2 instances in the last two years where despite awesome bowling on great bowling tracks, opposition teams got to decent totals - Micheal Clarke's immense 151 of 284 and Laxman's matchwinning 96 of 226.

Both were absolute stand-up knocks though which you don't see everyday. Though the NZ bats were especially dire, I reckon any batting team in the world had a massive chance of being rolled for 150-odd with Vern bowling like that. Would've required a really outstanding innings from a batsman to have a good first innings.

 

[Heboric]

Lovely day at the ground, thank goodness for the slight breeze.

Mile Haysman.

SA commentators are horribly biased at the worst of times. This is about to become unbearable.

Coming from an Australian this comment is so funny and ironic at so many levels

 

[Prince EWS]

Coming from an Australian this comment is so funny and ironic at so many levels

Mate, this is the ****test post. Jono has always been very critical of the Nine commentary team, not to the mention the fact that he supports India anyway FFS. Stop warmongering.

 

[Meridio]

**** this NZ team is horrible. They talk about doing the basics well.... This is an example of doing the basics very ****ly, if at all.

Yes, this.

IMO, this is the number one reason why we are so **** at the moment - we do the basics terribly. All the good players, across all sports, do the basics exceptionally well, and that's what makes them so good. All the NZ players can do the little things - they can reverse sweep, play scoop shots, hit over cover, do diving backhand flicks in the field etc. - but while being able to do those things is good, they're the things that you might do once a game, if that. We fail at the things you need to do constantly - we can't defend, play with hard hands, fall over their front feet, hit the ball at catchable height, drop regulation catches in the slips etc etc etc.

It's one of my biggest gripes about coaching in NZ. There's a huge focus on the 1% things, and not enough on the 40% things. I've lost count of the number of team talks, coach talks etc I've had where we've been told to concentrate on the little things and then the big things will take care of themselves...it doesn't work like that. Get the basics right first.

 

[SeamUp]

I reckon the bowling was absolutely excellent today and Philander would have taken 3-4 wickets against most teams in those overs he bowled but you'd have a chance of one quality bat standing up and getting the team to a decent score if bowling against a better team IMO.

To quote 2 instances in the last two years where despite awesome bowling on great bowling tracks, opposition teams got to decent totals - Micheal Clarke's immense 151 of 284 and Laxman's matchwinning 96 of 226.

Both were absolute stand-up knocks though which you don't see everyday. Though the NZ bats were especially dire, I reckon any batting team in the world had a massive chance of being rolled for 150-odd with Vern bowling like that. Would've required a really outstanding innings from a batsman to have a good first innings.

I would go with this for sure. It was my thinking as well.

Obviously a 'quality' issue but at least it wasn't one of those collapses where the batsmen just gave the bowlers wickets. But I guess a collapse is just collapse but if I was Kiwi I would have hated to see a Brad Haddin type dismissal even more.

 

[Meridio]

Anyway, we've endured a lot recently in NZ cricket, but even so, I'm struggling to remember a worse performance. Other than the 26 all out, have we ever had a day as bad as this?

 

[Meridio]

I would go with this for sure. It was my thinking as well.

Obviously a 'quality' issue but at least it wasn't one of those collapses where the batsmen just gave the bowlers wickets. But I guess a collapse is just collapse but if I was Kiwi I would have hated to see a Brad Haddin type dismissal even more.

I haven't yet seen any of the game (am about to watch highlights) but I do get the impression that it was a superb spell by Philander. That said though, 45 all out is just ridiculous. That's one of the problems with the NZ batsmen - bowl them a decent ball and you'll get them out, because we don't have the technique to deal with it.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Yes, this.

IMO, this is the number one reason why we are so **** at the moment - we do the basics terribly. All the good players, across all sports, do the basics exceptionally well, and that's what makes them so good. All the NZ players can do the little things - they can reverse sweep, play scoop shots, hit over cover, do diving backhand flicks in the field etc. - but while being able to do those things is good, they're the things that you might do once a game, if that. We fail at the things you need to do constantly - we can't defend, play with hard hands, fall over their front feet, hit the ball at catchable height, drop regulation catches in the slips etc etc etc.

It's one of my biggest gripes about coaching in NZ. There's a huge focus on the 1% things, and not enough on the 40% things. I've lost count of the number of team talks, coach talks etc I've had where we've been told to concentrate on the little things and then the big things will take care of themselves...it doesn't work like that. Get the basics right first.

Personally, as a youth coach, I'd class "doing the little things right" as "doing the basics" - taking catches, throwing accurately, avoiding misfields, playing straight, calling properly when you run.

None of that nonsense! It's like when someone tries three rainbow flicks in the first five minutes of a football game, loses the ball three times, and wonders why you've subbed him off.

 

[Heboric]

Mate, this is the ****test post. Jono has always been very critical of the Nine commentary team, not to the mention the fact that he supports India anyway FFS. Stop warmongering.

Good grief.

The guy basically calls all of a countries commentators extremely poor and bias yet I am the one warmongering

Does one have to be from a certain country to get liberties, I have seen this happen before.

 

[Meridio]

Personally, as a youth coach, I'd class "doing the little things right" as "doing the basics" - taking catches, throwing accurately, avoiding misfields, playing straight, calling properly when you run.

None of that nonsense! It's like when someone tries three rainbow flicks in the first five minutes of a football game, loses the ball three times, and wonders why you've subbed him off.

Well, that makes sense, but I don't think of those things as little things - they're the fundamentals, so they're the big things.

Anyway, when summer over here starts it will be interesting to see how different it is to back home. I definitely think that we concentrate on the wrong things - I've had training sessions where we've had to do things like only hitting backward of square, yet I can't think of many where I've had to actually concentrate on building an innings, playing straight etc.

 

[Furball]

Good grief.

The guy basically calls all of a countries commentators extremely poor and bias yet I am the one warmongering

Does one have to be from a certain country to get liberties, I have seen this happen before.

Nah, piss off. The quality of Channel 9's commentary team has absolutely **** all to do with the fact that South Africa's commentators, Pollock excepted, are all ****ing terrible.