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**Official** New Zealand in South Africa

jcas0167

jcas0167

International Debutant
Prensel said:
Are we screwed in the Tests or what?

New Zealands best batsman average: Brendon McCullum - 35.63
South Africas worst batsman average: Jacques Rudolph - 35.43

Wish Taylor and Ryder would just play.
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Based on the series against Australia last year, I would rate Brownlie ahead of Ryder for handling pace bowling on bouncy wickets. A point Mark Reason noted ahead of that series:

At the moment Ryder's backers point to a test average of 44.85. It's a flattering figure, not a phrase often used about Ryder. Against India, the West Indies and Bangladesh (not the bowling giants of the modern cricket world), Ryder averages 65. Against Australia, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, teams with a bit of fizz in their fast bowling, Ryder averages a shade under 20. He has not played against two of the world's top teams, England and South Africa.
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Mark Reason | Jesse Ryder's talent will be tested... | Stuff.co.nz
 
BeeGee

BeeGee

International Captain
Prensel said:
Are we screwed in the Tests or what?

New Zealands best batsman average: Brendon McCullum - 35.63
South Africas worst batsman average: Jacques Rudolph - 35.43

Wish Taylor and Ryder would just play.
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Nice stat :laugh:

I'm looking forward to watching Amla carve it up. He is a bearded cricketing god!

Weird schedule. T20 then Tests then ODIs.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Prensel said:
Are we screwed in the Tests or what?

New Zealands best batsman average: Brendon McCullum - 35.63
South Africas worst batsman average: Jacques Rudolph - 35.43

Wish Taylor and Ryder would just play.
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Dean Elgar - 0.
 
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Prensel

U19 Cricketer
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Chubb said:
See some logic in Fulton selection. He likes hard pitches and is in good form.
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Really? The Peter Fulton I remember didn't like the ball above knee height, particularly in the years after he stopped bothering to move his feet.
 
Chubb

Chubb

International Regular
straw man said:
Really? The Peter Fulton I remember didn't like the ball above knee height, particularly in the years after he stopped bothering to move his feet.
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Hmmm well I based that off some stuff I remember when he did quite well v Australia and England in 06-07. You might well be right.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Chubb said:
Hmmm well I based that off some stuff I remember when he did quite well v Australia and England in 06-07. You might well be right.
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If he doesn't get bounced out, the concrete feet will give him away. Alongside Peter Ingram, he is as limited technically as it comes.

Worry for the NZ batsman is that most of them don't have a back foot game and on their last few tours here they have just been annihilated by back of a length pace. Probably helps them that the two venues for the tests probably won't be lightening quick.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
Hmm, I don't think it will be specifically back of a length pace that damns us. Williamson, McCullum, Flynn and Brownlie are pretty strong in that area. If anything I'd target someone like Brownlie on the front foot or with his best mate spin.

It's the general leap in pace bowling quality from SL and India that will kill us. Well that and general incompetence.
 
ohnoitsyou

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Flem274* said:
Hmm, I don't think it will be specifically back of a length pace that damns us. Williamson, McCullum, Flynn and Brownlie are pretty strong in that area. If anything I'd target someone like Brownlie on the front foot or with his best mate spin.

It's the general leap in pace bowling quality from SL and India that will kill us. Well that and general incompetence.
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While i agree with you, Williamson is at his weakest back of a length off off stump. I expect Philander will target this area and get his wicket nearly match.
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
straw man said:
Really? The Peter Fulton I remember didn't like the ball above knee height, particularly in the years after he stopped bothering to move his feet.
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Nah, there's nothing that Fulton loves more than rocking back and creaming a bouncer of backward square for 6.
 
hendrix

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Bahnz said:
Nah, there's nothing that Fulton loves more than rocking back and creaming a bouncer of backward square for 6.
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with those players it tends to depend how fast the bouncers are.

I seem to remember him looking a bit out of his depth against the likes of Lee (and/or Tait) one series.

Could be someone else i'm thinking of though.
 
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