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Spark

Global Moderator
the ball isn't doing anything, and they're waiting for the ball to start reversing so they can attack, its best to control the run flow at this stage.
Yes, that unstoppable run rate of under 3?

Give your new ball bowlers some support ffs.
 

Daemon

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Ishant isn't a swing bowler though. In fact one of the reasons he's lost a lot of pace as he admitted was because he was trying to copy Zaheer and Praveen.

EDIT: @ Nasserfan
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
Yes, that unstoppable run rate of under 3?

Give your new ball bowlers some support ffs.
that is support, he's got plenty of players in the slips still, having a guy back for the odd bad ball is perfectly fine. And he's not the only captain who does it, of course everyone loves to pick on him so I'm not surprised by your comment.
 

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
Ishant isn't a swing bowler though. In fact one of the reasons he's lost a lot of pace as he admitted was because he was trying to copy Zaheer and Praveen.

EDIT: @ Nasserfan
Oh I realise that, but his seam position is awful. He's never going to get any movement of the pitch unless he flukes it bowling like this.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
It allows a defensive shot to concede an easy single, which is just dumb when the ball is this new.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I was simply having a look at India's fast bowler's stats. I knew Zaheer is closing in on his 300th wicket, but I can't help but notice his average is a bit disappointing. Of all bowlers with that amount of wickets, only Harbhajan has a poorer average. And I actually rate the guy!

Sharma's stats are far worse. Makes me wonder where Paveen Kumar is. He was good in England!
Zaheer averages much less (like 5 rus per wicket) away from India. Cricinfo.

If he was English or an EnZedder he'd be below 30, IMHO. Quality craftsman.
 

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
I don't blame Dhoni for being defensive when one of your opening bowlers literally has zero chance of moving the ball of the straight.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
It allows a defensive shot to concede an easy single, which is just dumb when the ball is this new.
it's not dumb when the new ball isn't doing anything, and isn't likely to do anything. I'd rather save the 4 than give a single at this stage, as the ball gets older it becomes slightly difficult to score, and that's when you don't mind the odd 4 because the ball will start to reverse, which gives you a chance.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Cook Ishant's bunny, Sky helpfully telling us.

Big fella has him six times already. Once when he was 294 runs to the good, like, but even so...
 

Daemon

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I tend to agree with Contra here slightly. Maybe the third over is too early, but a boundary would release a lot more pressure on the batsmen or give them more confidence than a single to deep point.

It's easy to say don't set fields for bad bowling, but it's a fact that you will bowl bad ones once in a while, and a player like Cook who's excellent at the cut shot is going to dispatch you to the boundary nearly every single time.

If Cook sees the opportunity to take singles there, then by all means let him play slightly late and attempt to guide it there, it gives Zaheer a chance if he can get one to come back into the left hander.
 
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