• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

***Official*** England in India

flibbertyjibber

Request Your Custom Title Now!
Haha yeah. Broad will be better for the run; Finn could well put in another Broad-first-Test-like performance in the second Test if he comes back underdone. Realistically Broad is a much better bowler than Finn so you'd only be able to drop him for fitness/injury and Finn's even less fit than Broad at present.
I'd stick with Broad, has more of a track record and has the overs under his belt so might improve. Go 4 man attack with 2 spinners and use Trott if ball moving about as he does move it (possibly more than Bresnan anyway) but I doubt it will be needed. If Patel gets another chance then we have a 5th bowler to use. Have to play Monty though.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Good start to the series from a cricket fan p.o.v. Test had some interesting moments, though obviously India ended up winning comfortably.

Reckon it could be an interesting series ovarall.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
England won't bat this poorly again methinks. Some high scoring matches to come in the remaining three.
 

flibbertyjibber

Request Your Custom Title Now!
Good start to the series from a cricket fan p.o.v. Test had some interesting moments, though obviously India ended up winning comfortably.

Reckon it could be an interesting series ovarall.
Only if more than 3 England players turn up in a game though. 4 if you give Compton allowance for it being his debut and he was by no means the worst player in our side.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
Ahmedabad before this game was as flat as they come. And that is anywhere in the world...

Eden Gardens will be similar to this i think. Slow low turning pitch.

Mumbai however is red soil, and gives a lot more bounce and turn usually. It's certainly not flat.

Should have played in Delhi one game. Certain win. :p
That depends on which Mumbai ground your talking about since that city has 3 different ones lol. But the last time WI played us it was pretty flat until the last day where WI collapsed out of no where. I would have loved Delhi too haha, instant win on that pitch.

Any reason why Chennai doesn't get a game and Nagpur keeps getting one? Honestly Chennai is one of the better places to play test cricket, there's some serious crowd as well.

Nagpur on the other hand hardly has any people, although I will admit it's an excellent ground and wicket. Just that it was built too far away from the city itself.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Good start. Well done Ojha, Pujara, Sehwag! Well done team!

Compton - Has a good attitude for an opener.. But it remains to be seen if he has the correct technique, especially in the subcontinent.

Cook - Superb in the backfoot play against spinners, and in the legside play against pacers. Both spinners and pacers need to consistently bowl him full/good-length just outside off-stump to take his wicket/contain him. Ashwin and Zaheer are best for the job. He's not the best frontfoot driver in business.

Trott - Same as Compton, but more experience/success...so more of a threat than Compton.

Pietersen - He's the kind of player who'll make it big once he crosses 30/40. We can rely on Dhoni to press the defense button once he does that.

Bell - It really amazes me how he isn't one of England's best 3 players of spin. He definitely has the best technique for the job IMO, but surprisingly almost always makes a mistake early in his inning. It has become somewhat of a mental block now I think. He will rule once he overcomes that.

Patel - Clearly the cricketer India needs to worry the least about.

Prior - Dangerous lower-middle order batsman - his cuts are very effective on these pitches. He's likely to be a pain in the ass throughout the series.

Bresnan - The 2nd cricketer after Patel about whom India needs to worry the least.

Broad - Might be the best of English pacers in these conditions if he finds his pace and venom back. But he lacks in mental/physical strength to bowl Courtney Walsh-esque long boring consistent spells when nothing much is happening off the pitch. Like Bell's batting, Broad's problem seems more mental than technical ATM.

Swann - England's best bet with the ball by lightyears. The more respect Indian batsmen show to him, the more confidence he'll gain. Sehwag, Yuvraj and Dhoni look suitable to take the attack to him. Indians need to treat his bowling like they did Warne's (though they had a very different batting lineup back then) to turn him a toothless tiger.

Anderson - His bowling is not as suited to these conditions as Broad's. But he has much much more experience, mental strength and cleverness. So it won't surprise me if he returns with better figures than Broad this series.
 

Motorwada

Banned
That depends on which Mumbai ground your talking about since that city has 3 different ones lol. But the last time WI played us it was pretty flat until the last day where WI collapsed out of no where. I would have loved Delhi too haha, instant win on that pitch.

Any reason why Chennai doesn't get a game and Nagpur keeps getting one? Honestly Chennai is one of the better places to play test cricket, there's some serious crowd as well.

Nagpur on the other hand hardly has any people, although I will admit it's an excellent ground and wicket. Just that it was built too far away from the city itself.
Chennai, Kanpur, Delhi, Mohali - Feb-March Oz series

With NZ, Eng and Oz tour all 10 test grounds get a game
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Good start. I think England should defiitely take way some positives: e.g Swann. Outbowled some very illustrious spinners of the past in India. No easy task.


Pujara looks awesome (at home, always have to say that w/ Indian batting). I think at the end of the series, it's officially time for Tendulkar to be dropped barring a return to form. Not that I think that will happen, but I think it should. Of course, Yuvraj sucks and so does Raina. So maybe Badri or something?


Though I shudder at Sehwag, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina lineup when India go overseas...but hey, can't get worse than losing every match like the last two series, so might as well.
 
Last edited:

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Though I shudder at Sehwag, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina lineup when India go overseas...but hey, can't get worse than losing every match like the last two series, so might as well.
Kohi? You mean the bloke that thoroughly outbatted Laxman and Dravid in Australia?
 

benchmark00

Request Your Custom Title Now!
Good start. I think England should defiitely take way some positives: e.g Swann. Outbowled some very illustrious spinners of the past in India. No easy task.


Pujara looks awesome (at home, always have to say that w/ Indian batting). I think at the end of the series, it's officially time for Tendulkar to be dropped barring a return to form. Not that I think that will happen, but I think it should. Of course, Yuvraj sucks and so does Raina. So maybe Badri or something?


Though I shudder at Sehwag, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina lineup when India go overseas...but hey, can't get worse than losing every match like the last two series, so might as well.
You won't have to worry about Kohli overseas. Probably the most suited-for-overseas batsman India has produced in a long time.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Bell - It really amazes me how he isn't one of England's best 3 players of spin. He definitely has the best technique for the job IMO, but surprisingly almost always makes a mistake early in his inning. It has become somewhat of a mental block now I think. He will rule once he overcomes that.

.
People have said this about Bell for years, and apart from a few glimmers of class, he's flattered to deceive.

He's still a decent player, but he's been the opposite of Chanderpaul; he looks a lot better than he really is.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Vic and I have hammered on this for ages but he's way, way too reliant on that shot down the ground to assert himself.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Good start. I think England should defiitely take way some positives: e.g Swann. Outbowled some very illustrious spinners of the past in India. No easy task.


Pujara looks awesome (at home, always have to say that w/ Indian batting). I think at the end of the series, it's officially time for Tendulkar to be dropped barring a return to form. Not that I think that will happen, but I think it should. Of course, Yuvraj sucks and so does Raina. So maybe Badri or something?


Though I shudder at Sehwag, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina lineup when India go overseas...but hey, can't get worse than losing every match like the last two series, so might as well.
Kohli has as perfect a gsme a sub cont bat can have for non sub cont conditions.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
It's a half-decent (not very good) start for India, and while seeing England pull the game into the second session of the fifth day was disappointing, there are a few good things that don't need to be changed- while a lot has been spoken of Pujara and Ojha, another key issue is that of Umesh Yadav. The England seamers managed just one tailender wicket, while Yadav has snared four, on a flat deck with low bounce. India need to persist with him for the next two years and not discard him like they did Ishant (and are now staring at the frightful possibility of Dinda being a strike bowler).

One disappointment, apart from the failure to squash the English batting in the second innings, is the total lack of support from the batsmen who can bowl. Ashwin bowled 45 overs in one innings, and 28 in another. Ojha bowled more than fifty. The pacers came close to 20 each. In both innings, all the bowling options Dhoni had at his disposal, bowled a grand total of nine overs across the match! That's really poor, especially from Yuvraj, who is fighting for the number six place in the batting lineup. If there's no support from the batsmen when they're bowling, not only will the bowlers struggle, but India's number six won't be found.

What could do with a bit of work, though, is the spin combination. Ojha and Ashwin have been unconvincing on this surface, which is a far cry from a rank turner. We're talking of taking a bagful of wickets for under a hundred each. They're not as good as the top three Indian spinners, and need to turn the ball a lot more to be effective in batting-friendly conditions. Harbhajan can help these blokes out a little, as he's not an overly selfish bloke.
 

Top