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***Official*** South Africa in Australia 2012

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
From what I've seen Tsolekile is actually a handy player to have. He's a brilliant pure keeper and an old fashioned unorthodox batsman. He's like the SA Jack Russell.

Thing is though, they have such a huge quantity of immensely talented, young, (and white) keeper batsmen in the fc ranks that it looks fairly dodgy.
 

say2chintu

Cricket Spectator
"Reality is that in three of his last four hundreds, Amla has been dropped. Australia were the first guilty party when Michael Hussey put him down in Cape Town last year off the final ball of the day. Amla had a rare rush of blood to the head and drove in the air but got lucky and went on to usher South Africa to victory with Graeme Smith the next day.

On his way to his triple-century, he offered a chance when he was on 40 when an edge went the way of Andrew Strauss in the slips. At Lord's two matches later, Amla gloved a short ball down the leg side when he was on 2 and Matt Prior could not hold on. "

And now siddle. What luck Amla is having and he is making them pay !!
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Been waiting to see Amla bowl more in tests. Rory will presumably be dropped for the next test unless he does extremely well here as Faf’s bowling is more part-time than JP. Rudolph presumably can’t bowl due to a dodgy back but Virus can bowl some offies, he bowls filthy medium pace too.
Doubt Thami will play but if he does, he is only getting a gig over Faf who went three years without scoring a hundred in FC cricket and has a record comparable to that of Quiney, average and unspectacular. Also AB without the gloves averages about 15 more with the bat, doesn't he?
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
I think Tsolekile has quite a bit invested in him because he's a black African, whereas the rest of the non-whites in the test set up are either of sub-continental extraction or are "Cape Coloureds".

Since Ntini surrendered to Anno Domini and Tsotsobe didn't quite make the grade in the longest format the majority population hasn't been represented, which one suspects is something the board would like to rectify.
Well the old board allowed Thami to quit cricket and work in an office and the new board from all reports is very business centric and is concerned more with getting the boards finance in order than political point scoring. Lopsy test cricket has pretty much been finished without much or any blowback.

And both Rory Kleinveldt's Dad and Uncle were involved with the SACB/played non-white cricket with guys like Vincent Barnes, South Africa's former bowling coach and they are a well liked family. Safe to say Rory has got more clout than Thami.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Would it be fair to say the Aussies didn't bowl the same as last year when they had so much success? Lots of balls short of a length when it was balls that were pitched up that were doing the business last year. Loss of McDermott a bigger factor than some realised maybe?
I don't think they bowled badly yesterday, maybe not as well as last year but then SA are a much better team than India were last year. And I still don't know why professional cricketers need someone to tell them not to bowl ****. The average club cricketer can work that out.

Am off to the game myself today. Don't know if we'll get much play...would like to see Kallis and Amla in action.
 

howardj

International Coach
Went to the game yesterday. At the risk of being called a nark and reading too much into one day's play, I really think and said so at the time, that the series against India last Summer really put us in a fool's paradise and wasn't an accurate reflection of things. India were just totally disinterested, and as demonstrated yesterday we still have a long way to go (bearing in mind that the bowling is meant to be our strength).
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
I hope everyone has 'taste it Spikey!' copied into their clip board for easy access with Hilf takes a wicket.
Look who's tasting now ****.

What was Amla first chance average in England again? Someone go find it I know he scored both his tons after we dropped him.
I worked it out after he was dropped in the Lords test. 18.2 rings a bell.

Petersen was lucky not to nick off early, but I thought after he settled he played well itbt.
Yeah this. People giving him too much stick IMO. From what I saw he looked pretty solid and put away the short ones.

If I was a coach I would instruct my fielders to immediately take a shot at the stumps after taking a catch to get a run out in case of a no ball.
Reckon that wouldn't be out if they hit anyway, as you have to be attempting a run to get run out. If the batsmen obviously thinks he's out, the umpire wouldn't give him out run out.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Reckon that wouldn't be out if they hit anyway, as you have to be attempting a run to get run out. If the batsmen obviously thinks he's out, the umpire wouldn't give him out run out.
I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run. :)
 

howardj

International Coach
Not related to yesterday's incident, but just generally speaking...

Bowling teams shouldn't lose a review when the umpire says not out initially, then a review is sought, and it's found that a no ball was bowled. It is the umpire's error that the no ball was overlooked, so the bowling team shouldn't lose a review

As I say, different to what happened yesterday
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run. :)
Yup, running to cross still counts, IMO.
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run. :)
Yeah, I see what you mean, but I still think once the ball is caught it will become a dead ball. Once the batsmen sees the fielder catch it, he'll stop trying to make his ground.

Not related to yesterday's incident, but just generally speaking...

Bowling teams shouldn't lose a review when the umpire says not out initially, then a review is sought, and it's found that a no ball was bowled. It is the umpire's error that the no ball was overlooked, so the bowling team shouldn't lose a review

As I say, different to what happened yesterday
I don't think the fielding side do lose a review actually. I seem to remember it happening recently, and the fielding side didn't lose their review.
 

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