Test Cricket Draft : Group B

[Agent TBY]

You're misunderstanding me completely.

I'm not disputing Richards' eligibility or quality, I'm merely saying that "only test careers are to be considered" means you judge players based on what they achieved in their test careers, be it in terms of stats or impact, or whatever your yardsticks are. We all knew and acknowledged that part when we signed up, which is why I don't consider Richards a good pick at all. It's a bit like picking Philander and claiming he's one of the best bowlers in the draft pool.

Or maybe I got the meaning of that blurb completely wrong - could Aldo please confirm?

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Draft is mostly about judging; what Richards did in those 4 tests and his overall career provide enough semblance of what he could achieve in long expanded International Career. Couldn't find enough reasons why he wouldn't score heavily in this draft or any draft for that matter once he's eligible for selection and thus I did the swap if that clears the point of selecting him

 

[kingkallis]

Andy & Blakus for mine. Voting is closed??

 

[AldoRaine18]

You're misunderstanding me completely.

I'm not disputing Richards' eligibility or quality, I'm merely saying that "only test careers are to be considered" means you judge players based on what they achieved in their test careers, be it in terms of stats or impact, or whatever your yardsticks are. We all knew and acknowledged that part when we signed up, which is why I don't consider Richards a good pick at all. It's a bit like picking Philander and claiming he's one of the best bowlers in the draft pool.

Or maybe I got the meaning of that blurb completely wrong - could Aldo please confirm?

You repeated what I said when he was picked initially. There was a reason to put the rule that said only test career is considered. So yeah, 4 tests are way too less to count him as a good pick. Great player yes, but not a good pick in this draft.

But then voters wouldn't read much into the rules.

 

[AldoRaine18]

Draft is mostly about judging; what Richards did in those 4 tests and his overall career provide enough semblance of what he could achieve in long expanded International Career. Couldn't find enough reasons why he wouldn't score heavily in this draft or any draft for that matter once he's eligible for selection and thus I did the swap if that clears the point of selecting him

We are not picking players in this draft based on what they "could" have done, but what they actually did.

 

[AldoRaine18]

Andy & Blakus for mine. Voting is closed??

Yep. I am keeping the polls open for 24 hours.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

We are not picking players in this draft based on what they "could" have done, but what they actually did.

The main point of drafting is assumption and judgement; we would never know how an ATG player would fare in real life and situation against certain bowling attacks that we set for our team. Let's say you chose Mark Taylor as your opening batsman, how would you know that how many runs he's going to actually score against let's say an attack with Hadlee and Garner? Basically you did an assumption by watching him play or reading stats and chose him as your opener and have faith that he would score against Hadlee/Garner. That's what it is- judgement and assumption.

 

[AldoRaine18]

Yes but at the same time, consistency over a period of time is the first and the most basic thing to call someone a good pick, no? Again, had Barry played 50-100 matches, he would have been up with the likes of Viv, Lara and Sachin, but he didn't and "in this draft" that is a big negative.

But like I said, don't worry too much. Anyone who just looks at your team to vote would give him credit, it is just the participants of this draft who are familiar with the rules who might chalk off some points due to that.