Quick World ATG XI draft- No Bradman

[Jager]

Hope I'm not asking too much, but what's the reaction invoked by Keith Miller and the number six, out of curiosity?

Of course not, p.s stop stealing all my favourite players

I just can't relate the colour of bright yellow (what I see when I six as) to Keith Miller in my mind. Five is a dark green and seven is purple, which go well with him (kind of illogical but I can't help it). It's strange so I am not sure if my explanation will help too much!

 

[watson]

I'm going to grab the mighty Kapil Dev here, as my third paceman and someone with the ability to bat anywhere in the order from 5-8. Will give me a mega middle/lower order with Ames and Hadlee in there as well.

Average of 31 with the bat and 29 with the ball. Great cricketer!

Abbot's XI

1.
2.
3. Neil Harvey
4. Wally Hammond
5.
6. Les Ames
7. Kapil Dev
8. Richard Hadlee
9. Allan Donald
10.
11. Bill O'Reilly


Nice choice. However, you'll probably need a really solid number 5 to hang around and bat right through the lower order. I fancy that Ames, Dev and Hadlee will be particularly vulnerable to someone like Ambrose, Lindwall, Holding or Warne early on in their innings.

 

[Red]

The Governor-General Charlie Macartney

Nice choice, and nice appreciation of an excellent early era cricketer.

 

[Jager]

Nice choice, and nice appreciation of an excellent early era cricketer.

The most underrated player ever IMO.

 

[Red]

Nice choice. However, you'll probably need a really solid number 5 to hang around and bat right through the lower order. I fancy that Ames, Dev and Hadlee will be particularly vulnerable to someone like Ambrose, Lindwall, Holding or Warne early on in their innings.

You're right. I think what will happen is I'll drop them all down a spot so Ames is at 7, Kapil at 8 and Hadlee at 9. However, Ames regularly batted as high as 5 in some very good English teams. Kapil did usually bat at 7 or 8 though.

 

[watson]

The most underrated player ever IMO.

Didn't he average in the mid-60s after WWI when he more-or-less gave up his bowling and concentrated on his batting?

 

[Jager]

70, I believe. I will check now

 

[Red]

The most underrated player ever IMO.

Was basically a contemporary of Trumper, and had a higher average than him.

 

[Jager]

Post-WWI average of 69.55. Godly

His batting was likened to Trumper's and his scoring even more prolific, although the conditions he played in (despite still being far tougher than anything of today) were likely better than Trumper's era.

 

[watson]

Excellent No.3 to have then!

 

[smash84]

crap

 

[watson]

You're right. I think what will happen is I'll drop them all down a spot so Ames is at 7, Kapil at 8 and Hadlee at 9. However, Ames regularly batted as high as 5 in some very good English teams. Kapil did usually bat at 7 or 8 though.

Incidently, I rate Kapil Dev as a greater allrounder than Keith Miller for the simple reason that Miller never carried the Australian team. On the other-hand India relied on Kapil Dev to rescue them with bat or ball time and time again.

 

[Dan]

Of course not, p.s stop stealing all my favourite players

I just can't relate the colour of bright yellow (what I see when I six as) to Keith Miller in my mind. Five is a dark green and seven is purple, which go well with him (kind of illogical but I can't help it). It's strange so I am not sure if my explanation will help too much!

Haha, great minds think alike Macartney is pretty much my all-time favourite batsman, since I've started reading up on him - definitely the most underrated cricketer in history.

You stole Miller and Grimmett off me, I'll take Larwood and Macartney from you

Five definitely makes sense for him then. Made stacks of runs there, you associate it with the colour of the Baggy Green. Purple, being traditionally perceived as relating to royalty works too, given his alleged affair with Princess Margaret. Completely logical, IMO.

Excellent No.3 to have then!

Most definitely - can counterattack with the best of them. Absolute steal in this round.

Should Hobbs go early, Macartney and Richards in tandem would be fantastic to watch.

 

[Red]

Incidently, I rate Kapil Dev as a greater allrounder than Keith Miller for the simple reason that Miller never carried the Australian team. On the other-hand India relied on Kapil Dev to rescue them with bat or ball time and time again.

I think Kapil was a great bowler (far better than his average suggests), and also a great batsman. I think the same of Miller.

I actually think Kapil (and also Botham) were batsmen than Imran, yet Imran has the better stats.

It's really quite hard to rank the 7 great all rounders (Sobers, Miller, Imran, Botham, Kapil, Hadlee, Kallis) because you have to judge them on two separate disciplines, then somehow combine them. If I had to rank them as batsmen and bowlers separately, I think it'd look like this:

As batsmen

Sobers
Kallis
Miller
Botham
Kapil
Imran
Hadlee

As bowlers

Hadlee
Imran
Miller
Botham
Kapil
Kallis
Sobers


( I know there are other ARs like Pollock, Giffen, Flintoff, Noble, but all the 7 above are ATGs in my eyes )

 

[zaremba]

Of course not, p.s stop stealing all my favourite players

I just can't relate the colour of bright yellow (what I see when I six as) to Keith Miller in my mind. Five is a dark green and seven is purple, which go well with him (kind of illogical but I can't help it). It's strange so I am not sure if my explanation will help too much!

If you don't mind a couple more questions about an amazing condition:

- Do you associate a colour with every word you see, or just some?

- And do colour names such as "green" match the colour that they describe or do they have some random association that we might not expect?

- What do you think of having synesthesia? Is it something you enjoy, or is it a pain in the neck?

 

[smash84]

 

[Jager]

Of course I don't mind.

I would estimate about 95% of letters have their own colour, for example A is green, B is brown, C is yellow, D is black etc., but the letter G has no main association for me.

In almost all circumstances in my situation, a word has a 'base colour' (my own terminology here), which is the colour I associate the entire word with. My own name as a whole is maroon because of the first two letters. L= maroon, L= maroon again, O= colourless (a nothing sort of dark grey), Y= gold and D= black. Black, maroon, green and gold are the most dominant colours overall, and by dominant I mean that if they appear at the front of a word, then the entire word is 'flooded' by that colour.

If I look at a word in terms of its individual characters, I can then see the colours of each letter.

Interestingly enough, the names of colours to relate to their actual representations, except in brighter shades than normal.

Personally I find it interesting, but it can really stand in the way of logic sometimes, which goes strongly against my usual reasoning. It can be frustrating but I just listen to it.

Ask me more if you want, I'm happy to explain anything if you're curious.

 

[kingkallis]

Gordon Greenidge to open with Sunny!

CricZo XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar /
2. Gordon Greenidge /
3.
4.
5. Allan Border ( c ) /
6. Adam Gilchrist ( + ) /
7. Ian Botham o /
8. Shane Warne o
9.
10. Fred Trueman o
11.

 

[Dan]

George Headley as my No.3

May want to reconsider, Himannv grabbed him back in Round 4..

 

[kingkallis]

My bad!