vic_orthdox
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You'd hope most people could at 120km/h.
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Whatever happened to Copeland?
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Flem274*
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What is it with mothers of Australian cricketers atm? First Mother Mitch and now Copeland's...
Spikey
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Wasn't it Sutherland? I don't remember the Arthur one. I mean, he's right. I just don't remember him saying it.
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How on earth can you forget about: Mum's bitter hit at Test selectors | Herald Sun
What is it with mothers of Australian cricketers atm? First Mother Mitch and now Copeland's...
She's disappointed in you.
Ruckus
International Captain
I don't think he looked 'crap' by any means in SL, but if you hadn't seen him bowl before then I could understand why you'd think he wasn't very good. After the new ball got older, he did struggle to get much movement... on pretty flat wickets mind. But he still bowled with extreme accuracy and created a fair bit of pressure, which I'm sure would of helped Harris to some degree. There's no doubt that someone like McGrath looks (and is) far better than Copeland though. What CWB said though was essentially crap imo...you can't judge him after one series on flat wickets and in conditions completely foreign to him. It was balls he was dropped after the SL series, cause the SA conditions in that series would have been ideal for him. But nonetheless he probably isn't the bowler some of us hoped he'd be, might struggle too much when the conditions don't suit. He isn't a bad bowler by any means though, and would make a fine back up bowler in the right circumstances. Think the main thing though is we just don't really need someone like Copeland at moment.
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Flem274*
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How on earth can you forget about: Mum's bitter hit at Test selectors | Herald Sun
She's disappointed in you.
The children of these mothers must die inside when they see these articles. Surely the parents must have some inkling of what bitching in the media about their kid looks like?
Now I remember it, didn't Hauritz' old man slam the selectors as well?
Prince EWS
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Nah it was definitely Arthur. He said it while he was coaching WA. No surprise the Copeland suddenly dropped about ten places in the pecking order as soon as he got the Australian job.
Gotta say though, I never really disagreed with him. I really like Copeland and always hope he does well because I think there's a cancerous pace bias in Australian cricket but there's no doubt that the pitches in Shield cricket in the 2009/10 and 2010/11 seasons comparatively favoured his bowling style overs others.
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I think he did, but his son had just been over-looked for Xaiver Doherty, so it was fair enough really.
The children of these mothers must die inside when they see these articles. Surely the parents must have some inkling of what bitching in the media about their kid looks like?
Now I remember it, didn't Hauritz' old man slam the selectors as well?
Andre
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Yeah agreed. He's a very good bowler but realistically his average will rise over time, he just doesn't have that extra gear required to get really good players in all conditions.
That said, it's one thing getting favourable wickets, it's another to perform on them so he is no mug.
All aside, he's a guy who has an opinion on a lot of things and rightly or wrongly I've heard that hasn't helped his cause. Can occasionally happen with country boys.
Prince EWS
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Nah Doherty didn't get picked in Under 14s tbh.
vic_orthdox
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Was already playing Tassie U/19s, TBF.
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Arthur was completely correct in his assessment and Australia has looked the better outfit ever since Copeland's fall from the Test team (and Johnson's axing).
Before Copeland's debut, I predicted he'd have a career similar to Adam Dale's and I stand by that. 2 Tests for 6 wickets and an exceptional first class bowling average for the pair of them.
Before Copeland's debut, I predicted he'd have a career similar to Adam Dale's and I stand by that. 2 Tests for 6 wickets and an exceptional first class bowling average for the pair of them.
vic_orthdox
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Lucky he had a whole season to get over it and still couldn't buy a wicket.
Ruckus
International Captain
ha that's only because Siddle and co. decided to get their act together. Has nothing to do with Copeland not being there. A fair comparison is the bowling attack with Copeland in SL, compared to the one prior to SL. Give me the former any day of the week.
How can you call it a career anyway, it's a mere cameo. It shows, and means, absolutely nothing.