Group D Discussion - Ukraine, Sweden, France, England

[GIMH]

Well Kelly has surely been called up as Johnson's backup with Phil Jones now acting mainly as centre-back cover??

 

[BoyBrumby]

Well Kelly has surely been called up as Johnson's backup with Phil Jones now acting mainly as centre-back cover??

Even stranger call then. Why bring in someone who doesn't at least nominally cover the vacated position? Jones was presumably always covering RB, CH & DM anyway.

My guess is that if Johnson was injured Milner would've been more likely cover than Jones anyway.

 

[Ikki]

Kelly does cover CB. Is the U-21 CB IIRC. But hasn't played there in a level comparable to the Euros. They really should have taken Micah.

 

[marc71178]

To be fair, the reasons for leaving out Kelly are the same for Richards really.

Think Micah may have blotted his copy book by refusing the invitation to be on standby when the initial 23 was named.

 

[sledger]

I wonder, if like Johnson, there are concerns over his general attitude, really can't see any reason for him not to be included otherwise.

 

[social]

To be fair, the reasons for leaving out Kelly are the same for Richards really.

Think Micah may have blotted his copy book by refusing the invitation to be on standby when the initial 23 was named.

Must be a typo

Kelly wasnt selected originally because he isnt good enough for Liverpool, let alone England

Anyway, as an outsider, it's hilarious to see a mid-table club dominating the squad - must be one of the worst English teams in history

 

[marc71178]

I wonder, if like Johnson, there are concerns over his general attitude, really can't see any reason for him not to be included otherwise.

I think that is a distinct possibility. Personally I'd have had him in as one of 2 right backs in the squad as soon as Walker was ruled out, but for him to be ignored for so long now, there must be a real reason behind it.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Anyway, as an outsider, it's hilarious to see a mid-table club dominating the squad - must be one of the worst English teams in history

It beggars belief. Fast losing interest in watching any of it. Busy playing sport myself on the night of the 2nd group game so missing that one anyway.

Can't get over how many poor Liverpool players have made the squad. They aren't even regulars for them some of them as well.

 

[Eds]

Having watched Kelly through the Reserve side, and thus far for the Seniors, I'd suggest he's actually more of a centre-half than a full-back.

 

[Scaly piscine]

But on the positive side Terry's scan was all-clear... oh wait.

 

[sledger]

I think that is a distinct possibility. Personally I'd have had him in as one of 2 right backs in the squad as soon as Walker was ruled out, but for him to be ignored for so long now, there must be a real reason behind it.

Think it surely has to be the reason, or at least a partial reason. It just beggars belief, that a player who played 29 games last year in a title winning side (and pretty well in the majority of them from what I can gather), has been overlooked in favour of a player who hasn't played 29 Premiership matches in his entire career.

 

[grecian]

Have to say this Rio thing is looking more and more unedifying. I honestly think I want us to get humiliated in this tournament. Certainly makes me look back fondly on the days of Capello.

 

[GIMH]

Think it surely has to be the reason, or at least a partial reason. It just beggars belief, that a player who played 29 games last year (and pretty well in the majority of them from what I can gather), has been overlooked in favour of a player who hasn't played 29 Premiership matches in his entire career.

Could use this for Johnson over Chamberlain tbh, doesn't mean a lot IMO

 

[sledger]

Could use this for Johnson over Chamberlain tbh, doesn't mean a lot IMO

Could understand it if Kelly had made as much of an impact as Chamberlain did tbh.

 

[GIMH]

Fair but you're still a ****

 

[sledger]

Was never in question itbt.

 

[GIMH]

Sounds like Rio has kicked off about still not being included.

 

[sledger]

Making not so subtle jibes, is how it comes across to me. Tbf, he has a point.

 

[Cevno]

But on the positive side Terry's scan was all-clear... oh wait.

The replacement would have been Caragher the way it is going, so not too bad news.

 

[Cevno]

Well Kelly has surely been called up as Johnson's backup with Phil Jones now acting mainly as centre-back cover??

Think Jagielka will be the first centre-back cover with Jones more of a utility back up at RB/DM/CB.