Saker rates attack as good as great Australians

[GIMH]

Glad you're amused alas my post is completely true and you'd have to be lacking in a brain cell or two not to realise this

 

[Arachnodouche]

 

[SteveNZ]

GIMHby the temerity to associate the two is crime enough



stats blah blah he will probably average 23 and 25 and 27 and a 34 and be done with whatever average 29 or something. He will be remembered as an outstanding example of a bowler who could swing the ball at pace in either direction at will, and was a massive part of getting England to be the best team in cricket for a bloody long time.

But he, and more importantly the entire pommy attack needs to do a hell of a lot more to invite comparisons yet. laughable!

Name me one bowler who swings it both ways at will, at 140km plus, and has 200+ Test wickets. Go on.

 

[uvelocity]

this proves what

 

[SteveNZ]

That you like comparisons, but you can't find one for Jimmy Anderson.

 

[uvelocity]

hahahaha is that all?

Jimmy Anderson;
Shall I compare thee to a passing shower?
Thou art more brief and more dreary.
Soft quads do make comparisons sour.

and so on

 

[vic_orthdox]

When was the last time Jimmy bowled over 140km/h?

 

[BackFootPunch]

Name me one bowler who swings it both ways at will, at 140km plus, and has 200+ Test wickets. Go on.

What does that have to do with comparing him to the Aussie attack though?

England don't have a 155km bowler or a leggie like Australia did but so what?

Surely comparisons can only be made based on results, both team-wise and individually.

Jimmy Anderson can swing it both ways at 140km and has 267 wickets at 30.05.
Glenn McGrath did less with the ball, at a slower pace and got 563 wickets at 21.64.

 

[SteveNZ]

Again, I don't care about Anderson's overall stats. It's what he is now. We can all be more analytical than dialing up Cricinfo's numbers

 

[SteveNZ]

What does that have to do with comparing him to the Aussie attack though?

And for the record, I'm not doing this. I'm saying we can put a guy in an ATG category without comparing him, restricting him to complete career stats etc.

 

[hazsa19]

He'll be 30 in July. This is a big if, but if he bowls like this for another 4 years he could end up with 450 wickets.

 

[Jager]

Name me one bowler who swings it both ways at will, at 140km plus, and has 200+ Test wickets. Go on.

Agreed with Vic, can't remember the last time Jimmy hit 140km/h. A perfect comparison for him would be Steyn, only Steyn is much faster and angrier.

 

[Migara]

Again, I don't care about Anderson's overall stats. It's what he is now. We can all be more analytical than dialing up Cricinfo's numbers

Anderson is nowhere close to what McGrath, Gillespie and Brett Lee had been in their pomp.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Anderson is nowhere close to what McGrath, Gillespie and Brett Lee had been in their pomp.

He is better than Lee already and close to Gillespie, miles behind McGrath though.

 

[Migara]

He is better than Lee already and close to Gillespie, miles behind McGrath though.

Gillespie and Lee on their top of their games easily dwarfs Anderson at his best. Gillespie was quite consistent, but Lee was woefully inconsistent.

 

[Furball]

What's 140k in mph?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Ah, getting my maths messed up a bit. Be around 87 I'd guess.

EDIT: yeah basically 87. He probably gets up and around it, but it's like saying that Steyn is a 150km/h bowler. They touch those heights rarely, and operate mainly in a bracket below that.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

What's 140k in mph?

About 84.

87 in fact.

 

[hazsa19]

Tbh it seems to depend on the speed guns at any given ground....

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Again, I don't care about Anderson's overall stats. It's what he is now. We can all be more analytical than dialing up Cricinfo's numbers

Yes but when he retires, he will be judged on his overall stats and not on the good run he has had in the last few years.