Group D Discussion - Ukraine, Sweden, France, England

[sledger]

Like "Barnes", hopefully.

Edit: Though obviously, they may know that one already. Give or take a few expletives either side.

 

[Ikki]

Calling it now, England to get to the semis.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Probably just because I was young and don't really remember but Hoddles side played decent stuff didn't they?

Yup, our draw in Rome to win the qualifying group is one of the more underrated England results of the last couple of decades.

Say what you like about the old cripple kicker, he did have a style of play he believed in & 3-5-2 isn't necessarily a defensive line-up with the right wing-backs. Was the formation that Robson employed to take us to the semis in 1990 too.

 

[Furball]

Yup, our draw in Rome to win the qualifying group is one of the more underrated England results of the last couple of decades.

Say what you like about the old cripple kicker, he did have a style of play he believed in & 3-5-2 isn't necessarily a defensive line-up with the right wing-backs. Was the formation that Robson employed to take us to the semis in 1990 too.

Was a great performancr. Completely outdid Italy at their own game.

Still think El Tel's side is the best England side I've seen. How McManaman wasn't capped more is beyond me.

 

[cpr]

Always ended up out on the left, due to no other option. Never really shone for England for that reason. Always thought he was a fantastic player.

What I never got was how Lee Sharpe, the most gifted left footer this countries seen since god knows who, only ever won 8 caps

 

[grecian]

Was a great performancr. Completely outdid Italy at their own game.

Still think El Tel's side is the best England side I've seen. How McManaman wasn't capped more is beyond me.

Not sure but I think it had something to do with him not being very good.

 

[BoyBrumby]

What I never got was how Lee Sharpe, the most gifted left footer this countries seen since god knows who, only ever won 8 caps

Same reason he ended up at Bradford & was pretty much out of the game by 30, tbh. He was a fat snatch rat who wasted his talent. Didn't want it enough.

 

[grecian]

Same reason he ended up at Bradford & was pretty much out of the game by 30, tbh. He was a fat snatch rat who wasted his talent. Didn't want it enough.

Him and his Bro played for us, they were both crap, but John was less crap, which says a lot for an ex young player of the year.

 

[Furball]

Not sure but I think it had something to do with him not being very good.

McManaman was an outstanding player, easily one of the top 5 English players of the 90s.

You don't go to Real Madrid and hold your own for 4 years if you're not very good.

 

[grecian]

McManaman was an outstanding player, easily one of the top 5 English players of the 90s.

You don't go to Real Madrid and hold your own for 4 years if you're not very good.

Think we've had this argument before TBH. I don't care how well he did for his club sides, like Barnes before him he rarely did it for England.

 

[cpr]

Same reason he ended up at Bradford & was pretty much out of the game by 30, tbh. He was a fat snatch rat who wasted his talent. Didn't want it enough.

Once he got properly crocked at Leeds, yes, he basically coasted out his career on his reputation.

Before that though, when fit he was fantastic for us most of the time. Sure you can put his excess injuries down to his lazyness at times, but he did have a bit of bad luck too (you dont get meningitis by being slouchy in training)


Still, only 8 caps in 4 years, and people like Andy Sinton playing instead....

 

[Burgey]

Come on Ukraine!!!!!

 

[Spikey]

if you play all of terry and rio and fat frank and that old liverpool guy in the same team you deserve to lose to ukraine

 

[GIMH]

Once he got properly crocked at Leeds, yes, he basically coasted out his career on his reputation.

Before that though, when fit he was fantastic for us most of the time. Sure you can put his excess injuries down to his lazyness at times, but he did have a bit of bad luck too (you dont get meningitis by being slouchy in training)


Still, only 8 caps in 4 years, and people like Andy Sinton playing instead....

The answer to your question is 'Graham Taylor'

He had Carlton Palmer in his side FFS

 

[sledger]

Covers every blade of grass.....but only because his first touch is crap.

 

[BoyBrumby]

The answer to your question is 'Graham Taylor'

He had Carlton Palmer in his side FFS

"Hit Les! Demand it"

 

[wpdavid]

I'm becoming inceasingly pessimistic of our chances of even making it out of the group. France are on the up after their world cup debacle, we've only beaten Sweden once since 1968 and our last game is against the hosts, who defeated us in qualifying for the 2010 WC.

To which you could add our quite diabolical record in euros that weren't played in England.
From memory, failed to get past the group stage in 1980, 1988, 1992 and 2000.
Managed to get past the group stage in 2004.
Didn't even qualify in 1984 and 2008.

I'm off to the nearest bookie.

 

[grecian]

Was wondering if we should have an England thread, so we can witter away to our spleens content, and real football teams can be left to real football threads.

Anywhoo good and bad news here.

Obviously the good that Smalling is injured and the bad that Wellbeck is fit...

 

[BoyBrumby]

Was wondering if we should have an England thread, so we can witter away to our spleens content, and real football teams can be left to real football threads.

Anywhoo good and bad news here.

Obviously the good that Smalling is injured and the bad that Wellbeck is fit...

Smalling has a groin issue then.

Turns out he's a bollocks defender.

EyeThangEwe. Old ones are the best, Missus. Try the peas.

 

[Pothas]

So Rio not being picked, means we are going to get John ****ing Terry in the squad.