***Official*** Australia in the West Indies 2012

[Spark]

Because he was bowling to non-Indian batsmen.

For goodness' sake, Warne got slaughtered on Indian decks against Indian batsmen. It means nothing.

 

[Prince EWS]

Is it just me, or is dissecting the Test statistics of two bowlers who have played ten Tests each bordering on the ridiculous? I mean ten Tests is a pretty rubbish sample already without splitting it up further into different countries and conditions.

 

[Spark]

Ind33d.

Really, there's not much to go on other than looking (ie. with eyes) how they've actually bowled, and it's a close run thing on that front.

In any case the difference between them as bowlers is vastly outweighed by the fact that Lyon will be bowling to Chanderpaul, Bravo and Deonarine, whilst the other will be bowling to Ponting, Clarke, Hussey. Know which one I'd prefer to be bowling against.

 

[WindieWeathers]

So Bishoo has been bowling in spin friendly conditions and Lyon has not and even though Lyon has been more successful.

So you think Lyon would do well in India?

Let me list the test series Bishoo has played thus far

Debut vs Pakistan (who are unbeaten for the past year)

Second series vs India (they were ranked number one at the time)

Third series vs Bang away

Fourth series vs India AWAY (before they played Australia)

The only series he didn't do well in was the india away one, which is nothing to be ashamed of considering the amount of quality spinners down the years who haven't done well there,

Whats interesting though is he's only faced sub-continent opposition thus far who are arguably some of the better players of spin, and still he done well enough to be named the 'emerging player of the year' .

 

[Spikey]

Is it just me, or is dissecting the Test statistics of two bowlers who have played ten Tests each bordering on the ridiculous? I mean ten Tests is a pretty rubbish sample already without splitting it up further into different countries and conditions.

Prince EWSinfo

 

[WindieWeathers]

Ind33d.

Really, there's not much to go on other than looking (ie. with eyes) how they've actually bowled, and it's a close run thing on that front.

In any case the difference between them as bowlers is vastly outweighed by the fact that Lyon will be bowling to Chanderpaul, Bravo and Deonarine, whilst the other will be bowling to Ponting, Clarke, Hussey. Know which one I'd prefer to be bowling against.

Actually i'd say our best three batsmen are Chanders, Bravo and Edwards... , and to be honest i don't think it works like that, while Ajmal and Co toyed with world number one England we managed to draw with them with statistically lower rated batsmen, so anything can happen at the end of the day.

 

[TNT]

So you think Lyon would do well in India?

Let me list the test series Bishoo has played thus far

Debut vs Pakistan (who are unbeaten for the past year)

Second series vs India (they were ranked number one at the time)

Third series vs Bang away

Fourth series vs India AWAY (before they played Australia)

The only series he didn't do well in was the india away one, which is nothing to be ashamed of considering the amount of quality spinners down the years who haven't done well there,

Whats interesting though is he's only faced sub-continent opposition thus far who are arguably some of the better players of spin, and still he done well enough to be named the 'emerging player of the year' .

I'm still struggling to find where WI have the "advantage" with Bishoo.

 

[WindieWeathers]

I'm still struggling to find where WI have the "advantage" with Bishoo.

I didn't say we have the advantage!!, i just disputed your claim that Australia are the better side against spin!!..your lot haven't been tested in tough spin conditions like we have of late, so when Australia are then we can compare,

As for Bishoo and Lyon, well i'll be honest i do think Bishy is much better, but that doesn't matter anyway because we've got a fella named Narine who is better than both of them and has the potential to be an absolute legend .

 

[Spark]

Actually i'd say our best three batsmen are Chanders, Bravo and Edwards... , and to be honest i don't think it works like that, while Ajmal and Co toyed with world number one England we managed to draw with them with statistically lower rated batsmen, so anything can happen at the end of the day.

That was three years ago though, not particularly relevant.

I'd agree that those are your best batsmen but I was doing a direct middle-order comparison (where the ability to play spin is most important).

 

[WindieWeathers]

That was three years ago though, not particularly relevant.

I'd agree that those are your best batsmen but I was doing a direct middle-order comparison (where the ability to play spin is most important).

"Three years ago"? no we actually played them May of last year HERE , which was only nine months ago!!.

 

[Spark]

I was only referring to Tests tbf.

And, well...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/516212.html

 

[Prince EWS]

I was only referring to Tests tbf.

And, well...

Sri Lanka v Australia, 1st Test, Galle: Sri Lanka Cricket gets official warning for Galle pitch | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

There were Tests on that tour as well.

1st Test: West Indies v Pakistan at Providence, May 12-15, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
2nd Test: West Indies v Pakistan at Basseterre, May 20-24, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

They don't really support his point very well though...

 

[Spark]

I must be losing it completely because I thought he was talking about England. My bad.

 

[WindieWeathers]

No Spark i was comparing our test series against Pak last may to England's last series against Pak recently.

 

[Spark]

Yeah I see that now. Had a moment.

 

[uvelocity]

#tonightsthenight

 

[Spark]

It does seem like it's been forever, but that's probably because we've had ****all to talk about.

 

[Spikey]

have got some KFC to eat to help me past the time

 

[uvelocity]

I'm right, had a kebab before

 

[uvelocity]

do they have kebabs in greenland?