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And a hell of a lot of the ones that get reported on are thinly veiled advertising.
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Cribbage's Standardised Test Averages (UPDATED November 2018 - posts 753-755)
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Spikey
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clear case of market failure imoYeah, was expecting that. Wasn't gonna lie though.
The fact that I'm not even remotely qualified to do any of this on paper will ensure it's a hobby/general waste of time only. I probably couldn't even get hired to write the program I wrote to do the task even if someone else came up with the stats stuff, because I have no genuine programming qualifications, despite obviously being able to actually do it. ****s with stats PHDs will always be taken more seriously in this field than lazy cricket-obsessed ****s with Economics degrees who play with numbers on VB.net in their spare time, regardless of how rubbish the findings of the former seem. For good reason too, probably.
that joke doesn't even make sense i'm sorry
honestbharani
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And for the 0932498th time, the concept of longevity that you have is completely unrealistic. You got it in your head that the player X who played for 5 years longer than player Y actually did the same or better than his career stats during that period, which is your whole basis for assuming he is better than player Z who would have, hypothetically, replaced him for THAT period... Which is utter codswallop as you have no means to measure these parts of the players' tenure seperately, not to forget that the 5 years is a completely arbitrary period which is relevant in this case only because player Y retired that many years earlier than player X...
In other words, you are trying to quantify something that is intrinsically unquantifiable..
honestbharani
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really? can we get some links to such posts? I am genuinely curious why they would rate so...
honestbharani
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Just did that.
Look up.
Gotta stop posting off my phone and being lost in all the pagenations..
ankitj
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Weldone - Downlaod my worksheets from following links:
Value of Wicket - 1.xlsx
Value of Wicket - 2.xlsx
Value of Wicket - 1.xlsx
Value of Wicket - 2.xlsx
Burgey
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Don't know if he's looking for an entree into the Danish scat magazine market mate.
benchmark00
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Lucrative tbf.
weldone
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JBMAC keeps Walsh in his list of top 10 bowlers ever, and McGrath was not in it.
SJS doesn't rate McGrath much anyways. McGrath doesn't make his AT Aussie XI. To him, McGrath was a medium pace bowler who got more wickets with 'unforced errors' than with 'winners'.
It is important to note that I disagree with both of them (except the unforced errors part), and to me McGrath was a better bowler than Walsh, though not by much.
Ruckus
International Captain
'unforced errors', what!? He was one of the best bowlers ever at getting wickets with bounce and deviation off the seam. Sure he didn't have the fire power of someone like Donald, but nevertheless he was still very much a strike bowler. Surely a bowler who gets wickets mostly through 'unforced errors' would have a high percentage of caught dismissals anyway? But he doesn't...in fact his caught percentage is the same as someone like Steyn. About 50% of his dismissals were caught behinds or LBWs. And that's not to mention the opinion that getting wickets through 'unforced errors' is somehow bad is frankly ridiculous. Bowling in test cricket is just as much about outlasting your opponent with patience and consistency as it is about producing jaffas.
Burgey
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There's a market...
kyear2
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+1
would also like to see a greater emphasis on runs and wickets againts minnows and getting tailend wickets.
But as I had said. Wonderful effort all round. Just skip the longevity bit.
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kyear2
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And leave out the greatest batsmen from the West Indies and South Africa respectively.
vic_orthdox
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http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cri...-each-nation-you-have-seen-8.html#post2130214I am not a Mod
JBMAC keeps Walsh in his list of top 10 bowlers ever, and McGrath was not in it.
SJS doesn't rate McGrath much anyways. McGrath doesn't make his AT Aussie XI. To him, McGrath was a medium pace bowler who got more wickets with 'unforced errors' than with 'winners'.
It is important to note that I disagree with both of them (except the unforced errors part), and to me McGrath was a better bowler than Walsh, though not by much.
weldone
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Buggers, that is his Aussie XI among players he has seen (check the thread title, you muppets).lol.....SJS does have McGrath in his list.....
in your face weldone
He doesn't keep McGrath in his All-time Aussie XI. Had I been a mod, I could have searched that post.
Do you understand the difference between the two Smali?
weldone
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When I applied my formula (to include sample size and longevity) on your list, here is the ranking the formula came up with (among those 41 bowlers only):
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Rank Bowler
1 CEL Ambrose (WI)
2 GD McGrath (Aus)
3 Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ)
4 MD Marshall (WI)
5 M Muralitharan (SL)
6 Imran Khan (Pak)
7 SF Barnes (Eng)
8 AK Davidson (Aus)
9 CA Walsh (WI)
10 WJ O'Reilly (Aus)
11 SM Pollock (SA)
12 KR Miller (Aus)
13 AA Donald (SA)
14 RR Lindwall (Aus)
15 DK Lillee (Aus)
16 FS Trueman (Eng)
17 GA Lohmann (Eng)
18 JC Laker (Eng)
19 SK Warne (Aus)
20 J Garner (WI)
21 Waqar Younis (Pak)
22 Wasim Akram (Pak)
23 MA Holding (WI)
24 CV Grimmett (Aus)
25 DW Steyn (SA)
26 RGD Willis (Eng)
27 A Kumble (Ind)
28 N Kapil Dev (Ind)
29 LR Gibbs (WI)
30 H Verity (Eng)
31 WPUJC Vaas (SL)
32 M Ntini (SA)
33 JH Kallis (SA)
34 IT Botham (Eng)
35 JN Gillespie (Aus)
36 AME Roberts (WI)
37 GS Sobers (WI)
38 Harbhajan Singh (Ind)
39 B Lee (Aus)
40 DL Vettori (NZ)
41 FR Spofforth (Aus)weldone
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The top 25 or so is quite different.
After that it doesn't matter much, because 8ankitj's list has only 41 bowlers...So for example, if we apply this method to all bowlers, Harbhajan's ranking might be much poorer than 38.