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AFL monopolises Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia, Western Australia and as much as NT as possible really.
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the new zealand dilemma
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KiWiNiNjA
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New Zealand (population 4+mil)
- monopolised by rugby
Victoria (population 5-6mil)
- monopolised by afl
Yeah, I suppose that's a decent comparison.
If Victoria played international cricket, and were only allowed to choose from those born in AFL dominated Victoria.
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KiWiNiNjA
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Dude, all Australian cricketers are from NSW!!!!!!!!
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Cricket isn't as big in Australia as people think it is ftr.
vic_orthdox
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I think the conditions play a big difference. From the impressions that I've gotten, it's a similar climate to England with soil like Australia, which makes playing on wet/damp wickets much harder than in England.
Is it true you end up having some higher standards played on synthetic wickets early on in the year until the turf can get up? I thought I remembered someone on this site saying that years ago.
Is it true you end up having some higher standards played on synthetic wickets early on in the year until the turf can get up? I thought I remembered someone on this site saying that years ago.
KiWiNiNjA
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Rugby is bigger in New Zealand than people think it is ftr.
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Come to Australia and pick up the Herald Sun. I bet there's more football coverage in that than there is Rugby coverage in the NZ papers.
It's no excuse. Football is a winter sport. The people who don't play cricket so they don't pick up injuries aren't serious about cricket and won't make it anyway. Stop using that as an excuse.
It's no excuse. Football is a winter sport. The people who don't play cricket so they don't pick up injuries aren't serious about cricket and won't make it anyway. Stop using that as an excuse.
thierry henry
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KN is chronically exaggerating how big ole Ruby Onion is in NZ- dunno why, must be a provincial thing or something.
The real issue is not how big rugby is but how small cricket is. It really is very minor imo. I feel like our culture is constantly moving away from cricket.
The real issue is not how big rugby is but how small cricket is. It really is very minor imo. I feel like our culture is constantly moving away from cricket.
You serious bro?
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This happens everywhere!
There are dozens of AFL players currently playing who could have been state cricketers.
There are dozens of AFL players currently playing who could have been state cricketers.
KiWiNiNjA
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I'm not using it as an excuse. I agree with what you said earlier
It's the whole mentality of rugby versus the rest from a young age.
Cricket and soccer are for soft ****s. etc
Most of the athletically gifted end up choosing Rugby. There is money in it. There is a winning culture.
I'm not saying it's only because of Rugby. It's just not as simple as "Rugby is a winter sport and Cricket is a summer sport". Maybe so when you're a kid, but when the time comes to choose......
And yeah, there's also the weather.
Poor infrastructure, poor funding, no money in cricket. No history of winning.
A lot of that comes from the dominance of Rugby.
but I also think it's not that simple in NZ's case.
It's the whole mentality of rugby versus the rest from a young age.
Cricket and soccer are for soft ****s. etc
Most of the athletically gifted end up choosing Rugby. There is money in it. There is a winning culture.
I'm not saying it's only because of Rugby. It's just not as simple as "Rugby is a winter sport and Cricket is a summer sport". Maybe so when you're a kid, but when the time comes to choose......
And yeah, there's also the weather.
Poor infrastructure, poor funding, no money in cricket. No history of winning.
A lot of that comes from the dominance of Rugby.
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thierry henry
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Don't substantially more kids play soccer than rugby? Didn't realise we were living in the 1950s ftr. In day to day life I see no evidence of an overwhelming rugby culture. I certainly don't see it in attendances at the games.
kiwiviktor81
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Am I the only Black Caps supporter here who believes that our time is coming (hopefully soonish)?
KiWiNiNjA
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Nah, it comes from living overseas and having an outsiders view.
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thierry henry
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Speaking as someone who plays a sport where other countries resources are hilariously larger than ours, but yet we still manage to beat them, infrastructure and money will only go so far.
Money and infrastructure will only go so far to stop daft shots or long hops. You can correct those pretty cheaply.
Money and infrastructure will only go so far to stop daft shots or long hops. You can correct those pretty cheaply.
Debris
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I think that is a bit of a myth that other countries have more resources than NZ for rugby. Other countries are much larger but rugby is not the main sport. The actual number of rugby players is not much larger for most countries (except maybe SA). Pretty sure NZ are not lacking in funds for rugby union either.
