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***Official*** South Africa in New Zealand 2012

SteveNZ

International Coach
Even if the squad wasn't being changed, you'd have to give him a rest and bring Ellis in.

I would hasten to add that anyone who thinks he can't handle 150km/ph is doing a Doull and hasn't paid any attention before. He pumped Lee last year in the HRV, did similar to Tait on an Emerging Players tour and Akhtar when Pakistan were over here last summer. It's just the quick transition from Zimbabwe's 130km plodders to SA's heat, coupled with nerves I would say.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Might be interested to know that including tonight, in the last six T20 Internationals New Zealand have played we haven't lost more than five wickets in any innings.
I can see where the basis for 'why the hell aren't we chancing our arm more' that people are getting at but loss of wickets=loss of momentum. Below Franklin, we had a international greenhorn struggling to make a mark, Nathan McCullum who is capable (but again, maybe only against medium pace/spin) then the bowlers. If Ross/Jesse play in place of de Grandhomme/Williamson, different story.

But you can't afford to be 80-5 - that's the recipe for 130-140 odd.

In other news, I'm going to be at the 1st Test at Uni Oval and with de Lange, Morkel and Steyn on what could be a deck with plenty in it, wow. Things could get interesting.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
The rise of the Leviathan

The latest Wynberg boy to hit the big time is a lad who can smash the ball out of the park or play the mature innings as the situation demands

Firdose Moonda

February 19, 2012

When Richard Levi was 12, his cricket coach at Kronendal Primary School in the Cape seaside town of Hout Bay made an important phone call. He rang up Keith Richardson, headmaster of Wynberg Boys High School, with an unusual request.

"He asked me if Richard could come and play for our team because he was too good to play against the kids in junior school," Richardson told ESPNcricinfo. "He was always bigger and stronger than the other boys, and he had arms as though his father was a blacksmith."

Richardson was immediately impressed with the powerful prospect he was offered and Levi was allowed to play for the high school team. From then, he always played a year above the boys his own age, and by the time he was in Grade 9 (the second year of high school), aged 14 was picked for the first XI. At a school that has produced players including Allan Lamb, Garth le Roux and most recently Jacques Kallis, to say Levi was walking in the footsteps of giants would be putting it mildly.

Wynberg Boys is considered one of the top institutes of learning in South Africa, having produced many notables, including the architect of apartheid, Hendrik Verwoerd. It has been the breeding ground for 20 international sportsmen, eight of them rugby players, and that's not including Levi.

In a galaxy of stars, Levi shone brightly on both the cricket and hockey fields (he was the South Africa Under-16 goalkeeper) but it was only years after he left that he made the big leap. "A school like ours has a lot of talent but it takes special mental strength to be able to make the step-up to international level, because you have to be able to get over disappointments," Richardson said. "Richard always knew he was a guy with ability and he was able to combine humility with confidence."

The mental strength that Richardson describes did not come to Levi immediately. For the first part of his career he relied on his natural talent to get by. He represented South Africa at the 2006 Under-19 World Cup in Sri Lanka but returned with an ordinary showing - 102 runs in five matches at an average of 20.40.

The skill was there, though. Dean Elgar, who led South Africa in that tournament, said the squad was well aware of what Levi could do. "Even then, you could see he could hit a ball," Elgar said. "He was actually quite a quiet guy then, but a good guy to be around."

Levi spent four seasons in the Cobras set-up, performing adequately but not outstandingly, perhaps leaning overly on his schooling pedigree. "He probably rested on his talent a little," Richard Pybus, current coach of the Cobras, said. "He was one of the sons of Cape Town and he did well enough without really producing." In the fifth season, someone turned the heat up and Levi responded explosively.

"We had a chat about how hard he had to work at franchise level to be able to play international cricket and the mind-shift that had to take place," Pybus said. Levi went from averaging below 30 in the 2009-10 season in first-class cricket to over 50 in 2010-11. His List A average in 2011-12 lifted to 49.44, and he also made an impression in Twenty20 cricket at the 2011 Champions League T20. "His game came along really well. He put in a huge amount of hard work and trained as hard as any batsman in the country," Pybus said.

What caught the national selectors' eyes was probably the role Levi played in the Cobras' Franchise 1-Day Cup campaign. He was the team's top scorer with 424 runs from nine matches, and his 84 in the final was instrumental to the Cobras capturing the title.

He also shared in a 122-run partnership in that game with Owais Shah, who has acted as a mentor to Levi over the past two seasons. "He has spent a lot of time with Owais, talking about the short-form game," Pybus said. "In that final he really showed his ability to adjust his game. He batted well on a slowish wicket and with a lot of maturity. He played very well under pressure."

Since Herschelle Gibbs disappeared from the national side, South Africa have been looking for an opening batsmen who can absorb pressure while still remaining aggressive. That requirement was probably in the selectors' minds when they included Levi in the T20I squad to play Australia in October last year. But in the interests of giving Graeme Smith time to find form, Levi did not play in either of the two matches in that series.

Instead, Levi made his senior debut in South Africa colours in a game hardly any of his countrymen saw. The South Africans played a tour match against Canterbury as part of New Zealand's earthquake relief effort, but the game was not televised in South Africa. Levi scored 63 off 32 balls, an innings in which he found the boundary ten times and went over it on three occasions.

That performance put him on the map, particularly for their opposition, New Zealand. Peter Fulton, the Canterbury captain, suggested that international bowlers would test Levi with the short ball, because he did not score much off the back foot during that match. In the first T20I, that's exactly what Tim Southee did, hitting Levi on the helmet and getting him dismissed later in that over. But in the next match that ploy did not work.

Levi smashed the fastest century in T20Is, including the most sixes in a T20I innings - 13. The short delivery was sent over the boundary with as much power as a ball of any other length. Those who know Levi said ducking bouncers is not a technical issue for him. "He sees the ball really early," Pybus said. "He's got no short-ball issues, no judgement issues."

Elgar is also an admirer of Levi's technique and said he is the player most franchises fear on the domestic scene. "He hits the ball better now than he ever has. Even at U-19 level, he had a good technique, but he's got more of a concrete base now," Elgar said. "He is definitely the guy that teams are concerned about. He has that reputation and that aura about him."

Sounds like someone else who came from Wynberg Boys as well. Although as batsmen Kallis and Levi have very little in common, there is something the pair share. Richardson said he soon saw what that was. "They both hate giving their wickets away."
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Even if the squad wasn't being changed, you'd have to give him a rest and bring Ellis in.

I would hasten to add that anyone who thinks he can't handle 150km/ph is doing a Doull and hasn't paid any attention before. He pumped Lee last year in the HRV, did similar to Tait on an Emerging Players tour and Akhtar when Pakistan were over here last summer. It's just the quick transition from Zimbabwe's 130km plodders to SA's heat, coupled with nerves I would say.
de Grandhomme's nothing but a club hacker. Big difference between coming in and hitting a couple of lusty blows against rank medium pacers and trying to do it against 140+ international class bowlers. Worst batsmen I've seen selected for New Zealand in both terms of credentials and ability, Tim Southee could probably play his role to a tee in this team.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
391 Plunket Shield runs at 97 this season would suggest he is much more than a 'club hacker'. And no, Tim Southee could not play a role at No.6 in an international side.

Look, I'm not defending the guy's selection - I wouldn't have picked him either. Based on his numbers, it was completely unfounded. Maybe some of the vitriol that has been dished out to him should be directed at selectors instead.

And I laugh sometimes at 'worst NZ batsman ever', 'worst All Black ever' etc like they deserve to be ridiculed for it. It's sure a lot more meritorious than 'very solid club player' or 'could have been a footy great, oh yeah'.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
391 Plunket Shield runs at 97 this season would suggest he is much more than a 'club hacker'. And no, Tim Southee could not play a role at No.6 in an international side.

Look, I'm not defending the guy's selection - I wouldn't have picked him either. Based on his numbers, it was completely unfounded. Maybe some of the vitriol that has been dished out to him should be directed at selectors instead.

And I laugh sometimes at 'worst NZ batsman ever', 'worst All Black ever' etc like they deserve to be ridiculed for it. It's sure a lot more meritorious than 'very solid club player' or 'could have been a footy great, oh yeah'.
Yep, and neither can Colin de Grandhomme :)
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Dumb. They're just telling him he can waltz right back into the side whenever he wants. So much for proving his fitness over an extended period of matches. They could have at least let him play all of the Plunkett Shield.
So you'd rather that we continue to field CdG in the middle order instead?
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Yep, and neither can Colin de Grandhomme :)
So it seems, no. I've never suggested he's up to it, numbers don't lie in this series. I've said he's got the talent, which I stand by.

Anyway, he's played his last match in black for a while. We move on.

As for Jesse, who else would we have picked? We want to win a T20 match to claim the series and take momentum into the other forms. And he's the best man to do it. I definitely take on board that it's sending a poor message, but I believe in this instance we'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face. And there are other ways of letting him know his chances are wearing thin.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
At least the guy has lost some weight and is in some form at the moment. He's basically dominated this Canterbury attack.
 

James

Cricket Web Owner
The NZ obsession with speed is ludicrous and misguided. The fastest bowler in each team was the WORST bowler in each team, and even when de Lange was being smashed for over 10 runs an over people were still spanking on about how fast he was bowling. :wacko:

I'm obsessed by bowlers who can actually control where they bowl the ball, get the ball to move and bowl with intelligence.
Very well said.

One of the things I do wonder though, why typically do our bowlers struggle to top 150km. Something to do with the training, or like you say, are the coaches in NZ not concerned so much with pace and more with swing given our general pitch conditions?

I assume Ryder will slot right back into the team. The question is where would he go? He's pretty much wasted at 5/6 in a T20 lineup isn't he in a straight swap with Grandhomme, but Nicol and Guptill are batting so well together and McCullum at 3 and Williamson at 4 I would say that shouldn't really be changed. Interesting time for the selectors, and even more so when Taylor comes back.
 
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BeeGee

International Captain
Dumb. They're just telling him he can waltz right back into the side whenever he wants. So much for proving his fitness over an extended period of matches. They could have at least let him play all of the Plunkett Shield.
Check this out:
Cricket | Easy does it for Jesse Ryder's Black Caps... | Stuff.co.nz

Jesse Ryder and New Zealand Cricket's medical staff have vowed to exercise caution over his international comeback, making him an unlikely starter for the one-day series against South Africa.
Vows are meant to be broken I guess. :laugh:

So you'd rather that we continue to field CdG in the middle order instead?
Personally, I'd have played Ellis in CDC's place and had Southee or Bracewell float in the order as a pinch hitter, if required.

I'm 50/50 over Jesse's selection. It smacks a bit of desperation, but if the coaching and medical staff think he's done enough and his injury's OK, then so be it. He'll certainly add some excitement to the game.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
I'd have Ryder at number three personally McCullum is only scoring at a SR around 100 which is probably stopping us from putting up 10-20 more runs.

Black Caps ODI squad:
Brendon McCullum (c), Michael Bates, Doug Bracewell, Andrew Ellis, James Franklin, Martin Guptill, Nathan McCullum, Andrew McKay, Kyle Mills, Tarun Nethula, Rob Nicol, Jesse Ryder, Tim Southee, Kane Williamson.
 
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thierry henry

International Coach
So, De Grandhomme was hopeless? Hira our best bowler? Bracewell possibly shouldn't be an automatic selection in limited overs cricket on the basis of doing well in tests, and Mills should take the new ball? I'm shocked.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Deserved recall for McKay.

So your best side from that is?

Nicol
Guptill
McCullum
Williamson
Ryder
Franklin
McCullum
Bracewell
Southee
Mills
McKay

McKay>Bates, Nethula not an ODI option to me (I'd like to see him play in the Hamilton Test though) and Ellis probably forced out by Franklin
 

Chubb

International Regular
I want to like de Grandhomme, as he's a Zimbo and all, but he just doesn't look up to it. Should have made himself available for Zim, he'd have done a job.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Just want to say that this tour is rocking along so far. It is exceeding my expectations. Guptil's six and Levi's ton top drawer stuff. Lots for us to talk about as well with the CDG issue.
 

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