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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Gerrard is basically Liverpool's version of Chief Cheateur. The whole team played around him, were quite rubbish and it made him look a lot better than he actually was. Take him into a different environment, such as the international stage and he looks pretty ordinary - the only stand-outs are his truly awful first touch, Hollywood pass fetish and his random red card tackles. Parker will do a good job for England, Gerrard won't. End of story. I couldn't give a toss who people think was twice one or two thirds of the other 3 years ago.

If Gerrard had buggered off to Chelsea I have no doubt his reputation would have dropped several notches just as Chief Cheateur's did when he went to Barcelona.
Well done Scaly not just slagging off Stevie G, but totally unrelatedly Henry:laugh:
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Gerrard is basically Liverpool's version of Chief Cheateur. The whole team played around him, were quite rubbish and it made him look a lot better than he actually was. Take him into a different environment, such as the international stage and he looks pretty ordinary - the only stand-outs are his truly awful first touch, Hollywood pass fetish and his random red card tackles. Parker will do a good job for England, Gerrard won't. End of story. I couldn't give a toss who people think was twice one or two thirds of the other 3 years ago.

If Gerrard had buggered off to Chelsea I have no doubt his reputation would have dropped several notches just as Chief Cheateur's did when he went to Barcelona.
Henry's reputation only dropped amongst people who don't bother watching Spanish Football. I still reckon the front line of Henry-Eto'o-Messi is the best there's been at Barcelona under Guardiola.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Last years was pretty special, reckon Pedro is a tad underated. Think Sanchez will come good but their selection has been a bit confused this season.

Seeing them live in just over 24 hours, going to make quite a contrast to my standard Saturday football viewing.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Gerard is still the best English midfielder IMO. Hugely underrated in this thread and always has been. Not going to debate it as I cbf but if he's fit and doesn't play then Capello needs locking up. Gerrard should be captain until the end of the Euros and then give it to a young guy and build for the future.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Gerard is still the best English midfielder IMO. Hugely underrated in this thread and always has been. Not going to debate it as I cbf but if he's fit and doesn't play then Capello needs locking up. Gerrard should be captain until the end of the Euros and then give it to a young guy and build for the future.
Do me. :wub:

Fox Sports showing Hammers vs Millwall. Not sure what I think of Big Sam as a manager.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Betfred will be cacking themselves, they have a multiple thing on first goal-scorer, doubles, trebles, you could see RVP getting five here.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Following Rio's example, it's with regret that I too must withdraw my candidacy for the England captaincy. At this stage of my career I want to concentrate on self abuse and making my alloted seventeen daily posts on CW questioning the legitimacy of Saeed Ajmal's bowling action.

I understand Delia Smith and Stephen Hawking are also having their own doubts.
 
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