*** Official New Zealand Domestic Cricket 2011/2012 ***

[James]

For those of you interested in how the Fantasy Cricket scoring finished up, this was it for the players:

1. Rob Nicol 697
2. Martin Guptill 669
3. Azhar Mahmood 476
4. Brendon McCullum 457
5. Doug Bracewell 451
6. Ronnie Hira 419
7. Brendan Taylor 381
8. Kane Williamson 373
9. Scott Styris 372
10. James Franklin 320
11. Hamish Marshall 307
12. Neil Broom 303
13. Brendon Diamanti 294
14. Dean Brownlie 289
15. Andre Adams 286
16. Jamie How 286
17. Mathew Sinclair 276
18. Anaru Kitchen 272
19. Ross Taylor 271
20. Andrew Ellis 269
21. Daniel Vettori 265
22. Grant Elliott 265
23. Colin de Grandhomme 261
24. George Worker 256
25. Adam Milne 256
26. Andy McKay 255
27. Peter Fulton 248
28. Peter Ingram 245
29. Michael Bates 235
30. Mitchell Claydon 234
31. Matt Henry 232
32. Michael Pollard 230
33. Brad Wilson 226
34. Peter McGlashan 225
35. Luke Woodcock 223
36. Kyle Mills 221
37. Craig Cumming 212
38. Tim Southee 211
39. Yasir Arafat 210
40. Dimitri Mascarenhas 204
41. Muttiah Muralitharan 201
42. Kruger van Wyk 199
43. Tarun Nethula 198
44. Anton Devcich 197
45. Gareth Hopkins 192
46. Jeetan Patel 187
47. Michael Mason 184
48. BJ Watling 182
49. Nathan McCullum 176
50. Bruce Martin 175
51. Jacob Oram 171
52. Nick Beard 152
53. Aaron Redmond 152
54. Jimmy Neesham 137
55. Harry Boam 123
56. Derek de Boorder 121
57. Craig Cachopa 120
58. Reece Young 108
59. Colin Munro 101
60. Jacob Duffy 100
61. Kieran Noema-Barnett 100
62. Tom Latham 96
63. Corey Anderson 86
64. Trent Boult 78
65. Neil Wagner 74
66. Rory Hamilton-Brown 67
67. Shanan Stewart 61
68. Graeme Aldridge 59
69. Ian Butler 56
70. Bradley Cachopa 53
71. Lou Vincent 41
72. Carl Anderson 30
73. James Marshall 30
74. Stephen Murdoch 24
75. Hamish Rutherford 21
76. Jesse Ryder 20
77. Carl Cachopa 18
78. Chris Martin 15
79. Graham Napier 8
80. Mark Gillespie 4
81. Darren Broom 1
82. Bevan Small -1
83. Michael Papps -2
84. James McMillan -8
85. Ronald Karaitiana -15
86. Craig Smith -30

 

[Hurricane]

I have been giving some thought to how it would work if NZ were to join Aussies FC structure. Clearly we would only be able to enter 2 teams. Auk ND and CD in one team. Wel, CTB, Otago in the other.

While our top 22 players were competing in the Aussie comp - our other players would still play "FC" cricket representing the 6 different associations. Yes this would lower the standard of domestic FC by taking away the 22 top players. But the benefit to the 22 players should better prepare us for test cricket against the top nations. This may not be the perfect time to suggest this after we actually won a test. But I still think the change would be beneficial for players like Southee who is too good for NZ FC cricket but inconsistent at the highest level.

If I were in charge of NZ domestic cricket this is what I would do.

 

[Mike5181]

Roughly:

1.Martin Guptill
2.Daniel Flynn
3.Kane Williamson
4.Ross Taylor (c)
5.Matthew Sinclair
6.Daniel Vettori
7.BJ Watling+/Van Wyk
8.Doug Bracewell
9.Tim Southee
10.Trent Boult
11.Adam Milne

1.Brendon McCullum
2.Rob Nicol
3.Jesse Ryder
4.Neil Broom
5.Dean Brownlie
6.James Franklin/Sam Wells
7.Reece Young+/De Boorder+
8.Todd Astle
9.Neil Wagner
10.Matt Henry
11.Andy Mckay

 

[Flem274*]

The downside I see is with only 22 players playing the highest FC standard possible, it reduces our player pool considerably unless we are willing to select from the Plunket Shield, which defeats the point of playing SS in the first place.

Look at the likely teams (based on who I think they would pick)

Peter Ingram/Tim McIntosh/Brad Wilson/Jamie How
BJ Watling
Daniel Flynn
Mathew Sinclair
James Marshall
Colin de Grandhomme
Kruger van Wyk (wk)
Tarun Nethula
Daryl Tuffey/Ben Wheeler/Adam Milne/Michael Bates/Kyle Mills/Andre Adams/Brent Arnel
Daryl Tuffey/Ben Wheeler/Adam Milne/Michael Bates/Kyle Mills/Andre Adams/Brent Arnel
Daryl Tuffey/Ben Wheeler/Adam Milne/Michael Bates/Kyle Mills/Andre Adams/Brent Arnel

and

Craig Cumming
Rob Nicol/Stephen Murdoch
Peter Fulton
Neil Broom
James Franklin
Luke Woodcock
Sam Wells
Derek de Boorder (wk)
Todd Astle/Jeetan Patel
Neil Wagner
Andy McKay
Hamish Bennett

We already know what the majority of those players are capable of, and at least in the Plunket Shield we know if a new player can stick it to some of those guys then they're worth a look. In the Sheffield Shield, all we would learn is which Australians are better than them.

I'd much rather see a proper A team program rather than the bits and bobs here and there that we have now, and create a window where the Black Caps play Plunket Shield, instead of scheduling them to play the HRV Cup.

Roughly:

1.Martin Guptill
2.Daniel Flynn
3.Kane Williamson
4.Ross Taylor (c)
5.Matthew Sinclair
6.Daniel Vettori
7.BJ Watling+/Van Wyk
8.Doug Bracewell
9.Tim Southee
10.Trent Boult
11.Adam Milne

1.Brendon McCullum
2.Rob Nicol
3.Jesse Ryder
4.Neil Broom
5.Dean Brownlie
6.James Franklin/Sam Wells
7.Reece Young+/De Boorder+
8.Todd Astle
9.Neil Wagner
10.Matt Henry
11.Andy Mckay

Those sides wouldn't actually play though, unless we created a window.

 

[Blakey]

Mitchell McClenaghan murdering ND - taken 5 of the 7 wickets to fall.

 

[Athlai]

Murdoch going alright.

 

[Blakey]

Latham went a bit crazy there. Next coming of the messiah no doubt. 130 (119)

 

[Hurricane]

Latham went a bit crazy there. Next coming of the messiah no doubt. 130 (119)

Very exciting player and prospect. Only seen him in a 20 20 but was mesmerized during his knock.

Don't understand why he is only averaging 25 in FC.

Averaging 50 now in List A in only a few games.(8 innings)

 

[Blakey]

Very exciting player and prospect. Only seen him in a 20 20 but was mesmerized during his knock.

Don't understand why he is only averaging 25 in FC.

Averaging 50 now in List A in only a few games.(8 innings)

Gotta agree. Seen him stuff all but what I did see was exceptional. Temperament was excellent and shots all around the ground.

Is he seen as middle order or as an opener?

 

[Flem274*]

He's only played a few FC games hasn't he?

Never seen him, but I hope he's the goods. Would be good to see yet another quality graduate from our two recent under 19 world cup sides.

 

[Prince EWS]

He's only played a few FC games hasn't he?

Never seen him, but I hope he's the goods. Would be good to see yet another quality graduate from our two recent under 19 world cup sides.

I hope he's a **** **** tbh, because I'm just that kind of sadistic arsehole.

And because he plays for Canterbury.

 

[_Ed_]

How seriously is he taking his keeping at the moment?

 

[Flem274*]

I hope he's a **** **** tbh, because I'm just that kind of sadistic arsehole.

And because he plays for Canterbury.

 

[Hurricane]

Gotta agree. Seen him stuff all but what I did see was exceptional. Temperament was excellent and shots all around the ground.

Is he seen as middle order or as an opener?

He's only played a few FC games hasn't he?

Never seen him, but I hope he's the goods. Would be good to see yet another quality graduate from our two recent under 19 world cup sides.

I don't know what they see him as - in some games where young played as keeper they left him out altogether so he needs to probably put up his hand for any position in the batting order at this stage. Some games at 5 or 6 and some games opening.
13 innings now Flem so he should be doing better.
I can't really post online what I would say around my cricket team mates when it comes to his technique and clean striking. But I hope he keeps going well. Hopefully he can supplant Shannon stewart and take his spot in the batting line up.

He and Boam would be the bright hopes. I would say Boam has the numbers behind him though.

 

[Flem274*]

Why Stewart? He's been really good for Canterbury in recent years and deserves his spot.

 

[Athlai]

Boam has disappointed me this season.

 

[Hurricane]

Why Stewart? He's been really good for Canterbury in recent years and deserves his spot.

True enough was saying this as an ageist thing.

 

[Hurricane]

Boam has disappointed me this season.

Looks likehe is doing ok in FC but hasn't had many bats.

 

[Athlai]

Yeah I'd like to see him bat at 5 for Wellington for a while tbh.

 

[Flem274*]

Wouldn't mind Wellington giving their younger players more of a crack, since nothing else seems to be working. Such a frustrating team. They have the players to be really good, but just never seem to bring it home.