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***Official*** India in Australia 2011/12

Burgey

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FMD, Ponting got a wedding to get to?

ABC comms saying pitch maybe stopping just a little. Anything in that.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Good sesh for India, they would have bitten your hand off if you offered them 3 wicket when they lost the toss earlier.
 

Briony

International Debutant
Clarke looks good today, just quietly.
Clarke will probably ton up, he loves the flat decks.

India would be pleased to have some breakthroughs after losing this toss though.

Yadav seems to bowl well every second test.
 
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Burgey

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India's session. Three first up in Adelaide is good going. This is the big partnership though. They'll be wanting it broken asap.
 

Briony

International Debutant
Cape Town was a real road, eh?

Back in your box.
Well SA cantered to 2/230 odd in the second innings. CT was never a minefield but the batting was poor early on.

SA hadn't played test cricket for ten months and were obviously rusty. Australia should never have been bowled out for 47, especially as we batted when the sun was out.

My point about Clarke is that his best attribute is scoring on flatties when the shine is off the ball. It's why he failed at #4, struggled against SA's bowlers apart from that 150, admittedly a very good innings, albeit against a rusty attack with two debutants - let's get some context! He struggled in the Ashes last year when exposed to the new ball.

So he should score runs today because that's what he's good at, not good enough to bat up the order but well suited to #5.
 

KungFu_Kallis

International 12th Man
Well SA cantered to 2/230 odd in the second innings. CT was never a minefield but the batting was poor early on.

SA hadn't played test cricket for ten months and were obviously rusty. Australia should never have been bowled out for 47, especially as we batted when the sun was out.

My point about Clarke is that his best attribute is scoring on flatties when the shine is off the ball. It's why he failed at #4, struggled against SA's bowlers apart from that 150, admittedly a very good innings, albeit against a rusty attack with two debutants - let's get some context! He struggled in the Ashes last year when exposed to the new ball.

So he should score runs today because that's what he's good at, not good enough to bat up the order but well suited to #5.
It's funny having to say that about a guy who just notched up 329* but I would have to agree that he's been flimsy as "top order" batter i.e. top 4. And statistically vastly better at number 5. Perhaps we could call it Ian Bell syndrome...
 

Briony

International Debutant
Aye, t'was. Surprisingly similar. And that itself was a decent recovery from 2/3. One suspects Aus will score rather more than 245 this time round.. though you never know eh
There was a bit of life in that pitch early which was exploited by the poms and then they ended up having the best of the batting conditions.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I still think that his numbers at #4 are largely coincidental, coinciding largely with two periods in his career where he could find any way to get out he could and couldn't remember how to bat respectively. Having said that, his numbers at #5 mean that you really, really shouldn't be moving him unless you have a really, really good reason.
 

Briony

International Debutant
It's funny having to say that about a guy who just notched up 329* but I would have to agree that he's been flimsy as "top order" batter i.e. top 4. And statistically vastly better at number 5. Perhaps we could call it Ian Bell syndrome...
But on a flat pitch against a modest attack which bowled poorly. Even the experts put that caveat on it while praising the effort.

But that gets back to what Clarke's all about, give him a flat pitch and an honest attack and he's capable of murdering them, but one never expects him to survive too long in highly challenging conditions.

Was disappointed with his efforts in Joburg and Hobart when the team was chasing teasing targets to win. On both occasions he was bowled for single figures. That's why he'll never be spoken of in the same terms as Punter, G. Chappell et al. Steve Waugh is a good comparison because he eschewed batting up the order too.
 

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