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***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE
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He will be.
Daemon
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Jarquis
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Not anymore. Though obviously the fact he was injured and hasn't played for a while is reason enough to overlook him.
FBU
International Debutant
Yes but you could say the same about all of our bowlers, except probably Finn who played in NZ in November. Bresnan will probably be picked for the ODIs with even less bowling than everyone else. At least Woakes will be doing pre-season training with Warks this week.
Woodster
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I suppose it's tough to compare the two as they're very different bowlers. There's no doubt in the right conditions Chris Tremlett is up there with the absolute best when he's in good rhythm but I think in these conditions Onions becomes a real possibility. He's an excellent line bowler who may not get prodigious movement but just gets enough nibble and his reverse swing skills could be important. He also has a great engine and in a four-man attack in hot conditions he would not shy away from the hard yards, can bowl long spells without losing much pace.
I'm not necessarily suggesting he should jump ahead of those that were originally selected in the squad, but if they want a similar style of bowler to replace Bresnan then he's probably the most like Bres.
Agent Nationaux
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How is that every English bowler is now an expert in reverse swing? Where did they learn the art?
smash84
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You mean where did they learn to cheat
flibbertyjibber
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Well we have a Pakistani among the coaching staff.You mean where did they learn to cheat
Agent Nationaux
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I was being serious in the question. How did they all suddenly become experts in reverse swing? Who taught them reverse swing?
flibbertyjibber
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Troy Cooley was originally given the plaudits, since then I presume the players have just passed the art on to each other.
If reverse swing is only achieved by cheating then it should be outlawed. I guess it can't be proven one way or another without someone confessing all to the authorities.
Agent Nationaux
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I don't think it's only achieved by cheating. A lot of reverse swing experts work really hard on it.
Agent Nationaux
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Who taught Cooley?
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Also Cook is ball polisher as he doesn't sweat, that supposedly helps it happen.
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No idea, but he couldn't get the Aussies to bowl it when he joined them so it leaves me even more puzzled.
Viscount Tom
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Cooley. We are told.
The quesiton of where it got learned form can be asked about all of the bowlers who used reverse swing.
The quesiton of where it got learned form can be asked about all of the bowlers who used reverse swing.
slowfinger
International Debutant
Needs more Fawad IMO.