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You're going on about it as if GF will actually lose...GF 's new Avatar should be Ajmal
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***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE
- Thread starter Agent Nationaux
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Xuhaib
International Coach
we lost our 2 leading fast bowlers in no time ofcourse its not going to be easy to find replacements. The current fast bowling stocks do look mediocre but then Pakistan does have the tendency to throw up a world class fast bowler every now and then lets wait for a while I say.
smash84
The Tiger King
So you expect England to clean sweep the series?
In the list of minnows you forgot to add SL
ganeshran
International Debutant
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
So you expect England to clean sweep the series?
In the list of minnows you forgot to add SL
When it comes to Pakistan, I have very high standards. Sri Lanka is a poor test team and Pakistan should have beaten them 3-0. And they failed to beat a West Indies team earlier this year. 1-1 is just not good enough.
smash84
The Tiger King
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
I am sorry, they are my team and I am not going to tolerate average performances from them. I don't expect them go thrash England or South Africa in their own den but I do expect them to win a series against West Indies. That was extremely disappointing.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
That's funny, I don't recall asking for your opinion.
slowfinger
International Debutant
One thing you must remember is what Pakistan have been through in the last year and a half. No cricketing nation IIRC has had their best bowlers thrown in jail, conspiracies circling them left right and centre, been written off, not allowed to play in their own country, and still been able to beat Sri Lanka, draw with South Africa, beat New Zealand, get to the Semi Finals in the world cup, produce more players, get an awesome captain out of nowhere, gain positions in the ICC rankings, have new players (Ajmal/Hafez) in the Bowling rankings.
You aren't giving them enough credit. Pakistan is a fighting nation, the most 'random', exciting, fearless, talented nations the world has to offer. Give or take the government, I wouldn't be so downed about us. We will bounce.
ganeshran
International Debutant
I wasnt telling you either.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
No he doesn't.he does have a point
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Look I understand what you're saying but that kind of thinking prevents you from pushing yourself to setting high standards. Yes they managed to qualify for the semi finals and then dropped Tendulkar 4 times..they could have easily won that match, they could have beaten Sri Lanka in their sleep in the finals.
I am not going to be satisfied with just qualifying for the semi finals or beating West Indies 1-1 just because of external problems. I am realistic with my expectations and as I said I do not expect them to beat England or South Africa or India in a test series...but we also should not make an excuse for poor performances, poor fielding and catching that costs us important matches
Howe_zat
Audio File
Nice post.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
The bet reflects that.
Xuhaib
International Coach
Black Warrior,
This Pakistani side is no way near as talented as some of the past Pakistani sides your expectations should be relative to the strength of the current side. The only things that bug me about this Pakistan side is Misbah's continued insistence of bowling first on these flat tracks and the over cautious approach by the batsman even when they are well in. These 2 tactics I reckon will backfire on Pakistan when they take on Top sides.
This Pakistani side is no way near as talented as some of the past Pakistani sides your expectations should be relative to the strength of the current side. The only things that bug me about this Pakistan side is Misbah's continued insistence of bowling first on these flat tracks and the over cautious approach by the batsman even when they are well in. These 2 tactics I reckon will backfire on Pakistan when they take on Top sides.
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Agent Nationaux
International Coach
I think what most people have ignored is that Pakistan is still rebuilding and will continue to do so for the next few years. We have a good no of new guys who are getting used to test cricket (Azhar, Shafiq, Junaid), but they have potential. The great thing is that we are currently doing the basics right (we haven't collapsed in a while). And as we get better and our players get more experience, their defensive mindset will change, they will become more used to a winning attitude and so our flair will come back. Azhar and Shafiq average much better when they are playing with Misbah and Younis. Umar also averaged better when he batted with MoYo. So we have a good mixture of youngsters and seniors to pass on the experience.
@Furball, want to have the same bet for the ODI's. This time with no set duration because the teams are evenly ranked (so no 6 months set period, but rather each month per points difference).
@Furball, want to have the same bet for the ODI's. This time with no set duration because the teams are evenly ranked (so no 6 months set period, but rather each month per points difference).