i didn't say that dravid was better than ganguly...but just because dravid was an average captain doesn't make ganguly a great captain...he was clearly not...
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Dravid lacked courage to revolt & Chappel being in Oz camp hardly matters: Ganguly
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chicane
State Captain
Hahaha Indian agitator. Hahahahahaha Ashok "best in India" Dinda.
chicane
State Captain
Ganguly was (and still is) a **** but he brought about a big attitude change in the team, which was some of the groundwork for India's subsequent success. IMO he instilled a positive attitude in the team, plus confidence and mental toughness. Backed his players strongly - Zaheer, Sehwag, Yuvraj, VVS, Irfan, Harbhajan. Some of those guys are also a major part of the reason for India's success.
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Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
No, I don't think Dravid would have done that. I don't think Dravid could stand up to those selectors and tell them that their way of picking teams was crap. This is not his personality and character and I think that's what Ganguly is trying to say about the Dravid/Greg Chappel issue.
Ganguly was the best man to lead India in 2000. There is no doubt that he did more for India as captain than Dravid .
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Ganguly was basically the Indian equivalent of Nasser Hussian for England.
smash84
The Tiger King
awta
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
This was a clear case of cultural divide and the more people speak about this, the more the issue gets complicated. It is a very simple case of culture clash. Greg Chappell belongs to a culture where a non performing players has to make way for a younger player regardless of his stature, experience, achievements, runs, averages etc.
Healy, Katich, Martyn, Hayden, Mark Waugh, and now possibly Ponting and Hussey.
That is not how it works in the subcontinent. If Ganguly or Harbhajan or Zaheer do not perform, or if Sehwag and Zaheer do not work hard enough on their fitness, you cannot drop them. That is the culture in the subcontinent.
Now most people do not understand this and the more they speak, the more crap that comes out. Chappell did not have any personal agenda against anyone. He was just implementing something which he has learned growing up in Australia. He did not realize that this was a whole new culture he was dealing with where things happen differently.
Healy, Katich, Martyn, Hayden, Mark Waugh, and now possibly Ponting and Hussey.
That is not how it works in the subcontinent. If Ganguly or Harbhajan or Zaheer do not perform, or if Sehwag and Zaheer do not work hard enough on their fitness, you cannot drop them. That is the culture in the subcontinent.
Now most people do not understand this and the more they speak, the more crap that comes out. Chappell did not have any personal agenda against anyone. He was just implementing something which he has learned growing up in Australia. He did not realize that this was a whole new culture he was dealing with where things happen differently.
ganeshran
International Debutant
But Chappell was also fired by Cricket Australia. There was no cultural divide there.
And its not true that players are undroppable in the subcontintent. Gambhir was dropped, Sehwag was dropped before they came back stronger. Harby is dropped now.
Players who have class always get a longer leash than others - its because they have the capability to bounce back. Ponting averages 38 over the last 5 years - yet he is not dropped from the team for the same reason.
And its not true that players are undroppable in the subcontintent. Gambhir was dropped, Sehwag was dropped before they came back stronger. Harby is dropped now.
Players who have class always get a longer leash than others - its because they have the capability to bounce back. Ponting averages 38 over the last 5 years - yet he is not dropped from the team for the same reason.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Ponting is a rare case in Australia...I am not aware of Greg Chappell's take on Ponting but Ian Chappel had said after the Ashes last year that Ponting's time was up and no point having him in the team.
Harbhajan was dropped after a very long time when he had been dreadful in test cricket for quite some time.
I am not favouring one side over the other here, just stating that there are two different cultures, two different ways of thinking etc. I do not think India would be better off by dropping Ganguly, Zaheer and Sehwag.
Harbhajan was dropped after a very long time when he had been dreadful in test cricket for quite some time.
I am not favouring one side over the other here, just stating that there are two different cultures, two different ways of thinking etc. I do not think India would be better off by dropping Ganguly, Zaheer and Sehwag.
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