Is Philander the new McGrath?

[ganeshran]

He has bowled as good as, if not better than Steyn in his short international career which takes quite some doing

Will he able to emulate the pigeon, or be unable to sustain the brilliant performance in his initial few tests?

 

[Spark]

Honestly, let's see how he does on a track that doesn't help bowlers first. I know it sounds petty but he's halfway through his third Test...

 

[Daemon]

Probably

 

[benchmark00]

I would say he is better than McGrath. Has definitely shown more than McGrath did in his whole test career imo.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

I'm probably Philander's greatest admirer on this forum, but even I'd say that let's not get carried away. A few more games and a couple more years are needed before passing a judgment.

That said, he comes across more as a swing and seam exponent than a back-of-the-length unbelievably accurate metronome that McGrath was. A swing bowler would tend to concede more runs than the McGrath, Ambrose types and you'll find that reflected in their average.

 

[Furball]

Let's wait until he plays on a pitch that isn't a greentop against batsmen who actually know which way up to hold the bit of wood they walk to the middle with.

 

[weldone]

He is always going to be a potent force in home conditions against any team. I can't comment on how he's going to fare on flat decks. But if you want a wild speculation - I can put some (not much) money on him ending up witha better SR and a higher ER than McGrath provided I get a lucrative betting ratio.

 

[TT Boy]

Awful thread. Almost as bad as the one the Australians here created where they proclaimed Phil Hughes “The Prince” and were considering would it be 60 or a 70 test match batting average he would end up with.

 

[NasserFan207]

No.

He is the new Philander.

 

[benchmark00]

Awful thread. Almost as bad as the one the Australians here created where they proclaimed Phil Hughes “The Prince” and were considering would it be 60 or a 70 test match batting average he would end up with.

lol, the nickname 'The Prince' had absolutely nothing to do with his cricket, buddy. In fact I created it before he had played a single international match.

 

[ganeshran]

Awful thread. Almost as bad as the one the Australians here created where they proclaimed Phil Hughes “The Prince” and were considering would it be 60 or a 70 test match batting average he would end up with.

Why? I am not passing a judgement that Philander would be as good as McGrath, just eliciting opinions whether he will be able to sustain his great performance over longer periods ala the pigeon

 

[Nigel Benjamin]

I'm probably Philander's greatest admirer on this forum, but even I'd say that let's not get carried away. A few more games and a couple more years are needed before passing a judgment.

That said, he comes across more as a swing and seam exponent than a back-of-the-length unbelievably accurate metronome that McGrath was. A swing bowler would tend to concede more runs than the McGrath, Ambrose types and you'll find that reflected in their average.

This

 

[Daemon]

CPL database is never wrong. Philander ftfw.

 

[weldone]

265 wickets @ 19.72 - not sure how many bowlers of the last 15 years can boast of such a record in FC cricket. He should have had his debut a year or so ago - before the likes of Tsotsobe surely.

 

[Teja.]

Have a feeling that we're witnessing the beginning of a bloody special bowler, itbt.

Philander to average under 25 at home, at least. Will be itstl to see him bowl away. One that'll stick around for a while.

 

[ganeshran]

Does anyone know why Philander had to wait so long to get a test cap? He is already 26 and a great FC record too

 

[Daemon]

People didn't believe anyone could be that good at The FC level

 

[kingkallis]

Let him play at least 25 games and then we can start comparing him with ATGs...

3 5fers in 3 test is pretty solid but all came on bowling friendly turfs.

 

[kingkallis]

Does anyone know why Philander had to wait so long to get a test cap? He is already 26 and a great FC record too

He played a few limited over games and did not look 'THAT' good to play the test cricket. When he was selected, I was like WTF, why Philander? The guy is good though. Lets see how he bowls in England.

 

[Athlai]

Cribb to take this as some kind of ultimate proof for his stats formulas