Spark
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Repost it.Radiosport love his F-bomb. They think it's the funniest thing ever.
As do I.
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***Official*** New Zealand in Australia 2011
- Thread starter Hurricane
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Flem274*
123/5
Bryan Waddle: "You don't sound very excited there."
Dougeh Bracewell: "Yeah, well I just ****ing...Oh I shouldn't have said that should I?"
adub
International Captain
awta
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
Oh, and congrats NZ. Deserved.
Great test.
Great test.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
"If P Hughes is shaving tomorrow and gets a nick," the ABC radio commentator Kerry O'Keeffe said, "M Guptill will appear from the medicine cabinet with a band-aid."
andruid
Cricketer Of The Year
doh!
adub
International Captain
The Kiwis pace quartet has the tools to take wickets when there's a bit of swing. Not so convinced they'd pose that many questions under bright blue skies on a dusty pitch. Could be an offer to the Bellerive groundsman from Cricket NZ on it's way.
Pattinson is a great find. Can swing it when it's available, but has pace and bounce to pose questions on harder decks. Starc is three years away from test quality at least, and Siddle again shows what he can do if he bowls full. Not having Johnson in the side helps his cause. Hoping Dougeh or Hazelwood comes in for Starc in Melbourne.
I've been Hughes' biggest defender, but he's failed - back to NSW.
Watson comes back into the side, but the idea of him opening still doesn't fill me with confidence. I doubt he would have gone any better than Hughes in these swinging conditions. He'd be knicking off just as often. His bowling though in these conditions probably would have won us the game. Whereas the kiwis had four bowlers pitching up and letting the ball swing meaning we never had easy runs on offer, Starc was consistently too short and Siddle and Pattinson had spells that were too short also. Watson would have bowled beautifully here and the slips would have been right in the game. I still think 4 is a better spot for him.
Like Watson I don't think you can assume Marsh would have gone any good in this series either. I also don't rate him because of his constant injuries. A summer without a Shaun Marsh injury would be like a summer without Santa. That said he'll probably get a go against the Indians, but I'm not thinking he's our solution to No.3 yet.
Khawaja is a tease at this stage. Looks so solid, but then gets out. Marsh will probably take his spot which is a shame, but he'll remain next in line unlike Hughes who will drop off the pace for some time.
I've said that if Ed Cowan ever plays test cricket, we're in big trouble. Well, we're in big trouble. To Ed's credit he has lifted his average quite a lot and it's just on the cusp of breaking 40 which I reckon is about the bottom limit of genuine test contenders. He has that other great quality for a guy you're looking to give a debut to - he's in career best form. If he makes a score in the two day game (assuming he plays) then I'd have no problem giving him a shot against India.
On Warner, well I'm glad at least one guy I had high hopes for has delivered. Today was what he's been delivering for NSW since he got his chance to open. He's not a basher or a slogger (but he can be when required), he's a batsman with a well constructed technique, the ability to score around the ground, the ability to turn over the strike and the ability to survive when conditions are favouring the bowlers. He'll have a lean patch some time, and probably get dropped like every other batsman, but Warner is going to score a big pile of Test runs at a high average and great s/r. Super fielder too. Another piece of the puzzle falling into place.
I said Ponting should have gone in SA, but the injuries justified his retention. If the injuries are over then the excuse is gone. He should (but won't) be dropped. He's going no better than Hughes and at 37 his glory days are a long way in the past. It's not enough to say 'who would you replace him with?'. The answer is you can't know if a guy is good enough until he gets a go. Even last week plenty of (admittedly not very good) judges were questioning Warner in the side. You've got to give guys a go and see who succeeds. By chucking them in we've recently uncovered Lyon, Cummins, Pattinson, Marsh and Warner who have put real test quality performances on the board. Cutting Ponting gives you the spot to move Watson down the order and give Cowan a go, or give Uzi a few more games. Whatever the result we need to move on from Ponting and we can't do that whilst we're still saying 'but he's working so hard in the nets'. Hussey needs runs against India or he falls into the same boat.
Lastly Lyon. I still think O'Keefe should have got a go first, and believe he would have given as much, but you can't fault the guy. Lovely shape and constantly improving as a cricketer. Showing enough courage with the bat to think he might work his way up to 9 eventually, or at least a solid 10. Quietly confident he can do a job for us even against the Indians.
Pattinson is a great find. Can swing it when it's available, but has pace and bounce to pose questions on harder decks. Starc is three years away from test quality at least, and Siddle again shows what he can do if he bowls full. Not having Johnson in the side helps his cause. Hoping Dougeh or Hazelwood comes in for Starc in Melbourne.
I've been Hughes' biggest defender, but he's failed - back to NSW.
Watson comes back into the side, but the idea of him opening still doesn't fill me with confidence. I doubt he would have gone any better than Hughes in these swinging conditions. He'd be knicking off just as often. His bowling though in these conditions probably would have won us the game. Whereas the kiwis had four bowlers pitching up and letting the ball swing meaning we never had easy runs on offer, Starc was consistently too short and Siddle and Pattinson had spells that were too short also. Watson would have bowled beautifully here and the slips would have been right in the game. I still think 4 is a better spot for him.
Like Watson I don't think you can assume Marsh would have gone any good in this series either. I also don't rate him because of his constant injuries. A summer without a Shaun Marsh injury would be like a summer without Santa. That said he'll probably get a go against the Indians, but I'm not thinking he's our solution to No.3 yet.
Khawaja is a tease at this stage. Looks so solid, but then gets out. Marsh will probably take his spot which is a shame, but he'll remain next in line unlike Hughes who will drop off the pace for some time.
I've said that if Ed Cowan ever plays test cricket, we're in big trouble. Well, we're in big trouble. To Ed's credit he has lifted his average quite a lot and it's just on the cusp of breaking 40 which I reckon is about the bottom limit of genuine test contenders. He has that other great quality for a guy you're looking to give a debut to - he's in career best form. If he makes a score in the two day game (assuming he plays) then I'd have no problem giving him a shot against India.
On Warner, well I'm glad at least one guy I had high hopes for has delivered. Today was what he's been delivering for NSW since he got his chance to open. He's not a basher or a slogger (but he can be when required), he's a batsman with a well constructed technique, the ability to score around the ground, the ability to turn over the strike and the ability to survive when conditions are favouring the bowlers. He'll have a lean patch some time, and probably get dropped like every other batsman, but Warner is going to score a big pile of Test runs at a high average and great s/r. Super fielder too. Another piece of the puzzle falling into place.
I said Ponting should have gone in SA, but the injuries justified his retention. If the injuries are over then the excuse is gone. He should (but won't) be dropped. He's going no better than Hughes and at 37 his glory days are a long way in the past. It's not enough to say 'who would you replace him with?'. The answer is you can't know if a guy is good enough until he gets a go. Even last week plenty of (admittedly not very good) judges were questioning Warner in the side. You've got to give guys a go and see who succeeds. By chucking them in we've recently uncovered Lyon, Cummins, Pattinson, Marsh and Warner who have put real test quality performances on the board. Cutting Ponting gives you the spot to move Watson down the order and give Cowan a go, or give Uzi a few more games. Whatever the result we need to move on from Ponting and we can't do that whilst we're still saying 'but he's working so hard in the nets'. Hussey needs runs against India or he falls into the same boat.
Lastly Lyon. I still think O'Keefe should have got a go first, and believe he would have given as much, but you can't fault the guy. Lovely shape and constantly improving as a cricketer. Showing enough courage with the bat to think he might work his way up to 9 eventually, or at least a solid 10. Quietly confident he can do a job for us even against the Indians.
Oh! In that case, I think it's the greatest thing ever. I wish he'd dropped a C tooRadiosport love his F-bomb. They think it's the funniest thing ever.
As do I.
Ruckus
International Captain
Generally agree with your sentiments there adub (and a good summary), but I contest the suggestion Watson wouldn't have done better than Hughes in the swinging conditions. He is probably one of our better batsmen against the moving ball, and the fact he is right handed would have made a massive difference.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Torture is having two classes whilst your country is on track to beat Australia in a cricket test match for the first time since 1993, and for the first time IN Australia since 1985. Luckily I was in the computer room grading presentations. Had the cricinfo score window at the bottom of the screen. Almost let out a yelp of joy when the final wicket fell. ***king unbelievable!
Had quite a sunny disposition for the last few minutes of class.
Oh, and according to cricinfo, a military medium pacer has run through the Australia middle order
Marto, I was wrong about you. Absolute legend. Would have been great to have won by the 2 runs you made in your innings.
Even when Marto does retire, we will be in good stead for the future.
**** knows what the selectors will do when Vettori comes back. Very good dilemma to have.
Had quite a sunny disposition for the last few minutes of class.
Oh, and according to cricinfo, a military medium pacer has run through the Australia middle order
Marto, I was wrong about you. Absolute legend. Would have been great to have won by the 2 runs you made in your innings.
Even when Marto does retire, we will be in good stead for the future.
**** knows what the selectors will do when Vettori comes back. Very good dilemma to have.
Zinzan
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Without wishing to state the obvious, It's Bracewell who's effectively won NZ two of the last three Tests since debuting.
Without him, this would have been yet another formality today with Martin & Southee's 1-44 & 2-77 respectively a long way off.
Finally NZ have a bowler who appears to be able to dismiss tailenders with relative ease.
Without him, this would have been yet another formality today with Martin & Southee's 1-44 & 2-77 respectively a long way off.
Finally NZ have a bowler who appears to be able to dismiss tailenders with relative ease.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Great post. Thread still lacks some Voltman comments.Torture is having two classes whilst your country is on track to beat Australia in a cricket test match for the first time since 1993, and for the first time IN Australia since 1985. Luckily I was in the computer room grading presentations. Had the cricinfo score window at the bottom of the screen. Almost let out a yelp of joy when the final wicket fell. ***king unbelievable!
Had quite a sunny disposition for the last few minutes of class.
Oh, and according to cricinfo, a military medium pacer has run through the Australia middle order
Marto, I was wrong about you. Absolute legend. Would have been great to have won by the 2 runs you made in your innings.
Even when Marto does retire, we will be in good stead for the future.
**** knows what the selectors will do when Vettori comes back. Very good dilemma to have.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
He does seem to have that happy knack.
We might have won that test in India with him and Southee - instead we had Bennett and Patel.
Flem274*
123/5
Don't have it.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
This Hobart pitch was more New Zealand than any pitch NZ has produced in the last few years. Wish we'd had this curator last time India toured
Days of Grace
International Captain
I doubted Southee yesterday, after his innings and his giggling as he was walking off. I thought his heart wasn't in it.
It ****ing was today, that's for sure. Bowled, son.
Timmeh. DOUGEH!
It ****ing was today, that's for sure. Bowled, son.
Timmeh. DOUGEH!
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Someone made a post that it is time to stop chasing skirt and time to start committing to the team. Thought that was fair enough.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Yeah was saying to Cribb how Dougeh made Australia totter before the break today, Southee then pushed them over with his gun spell before Dougeh kicked the **** out of them to finish them off. Some gun Southee Dougeh bowling today.