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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Hmm seems fair enough to me. If he's staging a buyout or something then obvz it needs blocked but I don't know if we should be telling the owners of clubs who to put in charge.
I disagree actually, the power of any private company rests with the Director(s), not the shareholders. Though of course often they are the same people.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Hmm seems fair enough to me. If he's staging a buyout or something then obvz it needs blocked but I don't know if we should be telling the owners of clubs who to put in charge.
When it's someone with the track record of Risdale then I'm all for it.

Financial regulations are far too lax in football in this country, which allows decidedly dodgy characters to come in and ruin clubs. Look at what's going on at Hearts - that's now 3 months in a row that they've been late paying their players. Is Romanov under investigation? Have Hearts faced sporting sanctions? Have they ****. We're told that the players "may" be allowed to leave, when it's quite clear that Hearts have repeatedly breached the contracts between them and their players. As far as I'm concerned, all of Hearts players should be allowed to leave for no fee if they want to.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
When it's someone with the track record of Risdale then I'm all for it.

Financial regulations are far too lax in football in this country, which allows decidedly dodgy characters to come in and ruin clubs. Look at what's going on at Hearts - that's now 3 months in a row that they've been late paying their players. Is Romanov under investigation? Have Hearts faced sporting sanctions? Have they ****. We're told that the players "may" be allowed to leave, when it's quite clear that Hearts have repeatedly breached the contracts between them and their players. As far as I'm concerned, all of Hearts players should be allowed to leave for no fee if they want to.
Indeed, had Ridsdale been in charge of a bank, or some other sort of financial services company, or any large commercial company in general rather than a football club it's likely he would have been disqualified from participating in the running of any similar organisation in the future or even gone to jail after the sort of negligence that went on at Leeds.
 

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When it's someone with the track record of Risdale then I'm all for it.

Financial regulations are far too lax in football in this country, which allows decidedly dodgy characters to come in and ruin clubs. Look at what's going on at Hearts - that's now 3 months in a row that they've been late paying their players. Is Romanov under investigation? Have Hearts faced sporting sanctions? Have they ****. We're told that the players "may" be allowed to leave, when it's quite clear that Hearts have repeatedly breached the contracts between them and their players. As far as I'm concerned, all of Hearts players should be allowed to leave for no fee if they want to.
But Romanov's the owner. They should definitely block takeovers from shady figures, I'm just not sure they should stop existing owners from appointing someone. At least, not on the grounds that they're bad at running a football club.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
But Romanov's the owner. They should definitely block takeovers from shady figures, I'm just not sure they should stop existing owners from appointing someone. At least, not on the grounds that they're bad at running a football club.
Nah, disagree. There has to be some sort of mechanism in place to prevent people like Risdale being appointed to positions of influence.
 

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But why? The FA don't know anything the appointers don't know, and it's much moreso the club's problem if he screws up. If he's fraudulent or some kind of evil dictator then of course they should step in but if he's just done a bad job somewhere before... why?
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
But why? The FA don't know anything the appointers don't know, and it's much moreso the club's problem if he screws up. If he's fraudulent or some kind of evil dictator then of course they should step in but if he's just done a bad job somewhere before... why?
Haha, there's doing a bad job and there's doing what he did at Leeds.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
But why? The FA don't know anything the appointers don't know, and it's much moreso the club's problem if he screws up. If he's fraudulent or some kind of evil dictator then of course they should step in but if he's just done a bad job somewhere before... why?
The impact of the negligence of someone like Ridsdale can extend far further than just the people involved at the running of a club though. As with Leeds, it effects the fans, the league, the regional economy, the footballing "market" if you can call it that. Running a club the size of Leeds Utd into the ground through sheer negligence and being totally irresponsible is more than just being bad at your job. As I previously mentioned, directors of companies who are grossly incompetent are often banned from entering any other company in a similar capacity, and with good reason.
 

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But that's because someone might employ them without knowing they'd been ****, whereas everyone knows Ridsdale is **** so he doesn't pose much of a threat.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Back to the football, what the **** was Mannone doing at Olympiakos' 2nd goal?

Completely ****s Dortmund over as well.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Olympiakos are one of the most corrupt teams in Europe, I can understand why Arsenal's reserves are being given a run out but it's dire they're effectively screwing over a much better Dortmund side in the process.
 
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sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Lol Olympiakos. At least you can go back to their domestic league that you rig every yeat.
 
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Scaly piscine

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Rooney now fails to kick a ball forward.

Have hardly heard of Young doing anything in the past 2-3 months, has the hype died down or do Manure fans still think he's the best thing sliced bread?
 

grecian

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Rooney now fails to kick a ball forward.

Have hardly heard of Young doing anything in the past 2-3 months, has the hype died down or do Manure fans still think he's the best thing sliced bread?
I dunno, probably too early to write him off, but I never got the hype, Valencia better in rvery way, IMHO.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I suspect the Manure haters on here are rather enjoying this referee as well as the game so far.

This sort of game shows up Jones' lack of ability in the final third somewhat. Keeps on lifting into the box from central positions, which is a bit hopeless with Manure's short-arses up front and they generally only have two people at most in the penalty area anyway.

Giggs looks likely to actually create something, Nani could do it the hard way with sheer persistence of taking on 2-3 players and getting a decent ball in. But other than it's rather pedestrian.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Man Utd's midfield is ****.

Got the Ajax-Real Madrid game on, referee and his linesmen are either bent or seriously incompetent. Ajax have had 2 goals disallowed for non-existent offsides.
 

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