Butt/Amir/Asif - Spot Fixing Trial

[marc71178]

Appeals against sentences dismissed.

Not entirely sure why they even appealed against them seeing as they were actually light compared to what they could've ended up with.

 

[fredfertang]

In England and Wales as, I would suggest, should be the case in any enlightened legal system, cases where the appellant has been deprived of his liberty are prioritised - the fact that the appellant may or may not be an international cricketer has got **** all to do with it

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Did Amir appeal? If he did, it was pretty stupid of him. He got a pretty good deal out of this. After being transferred from that dangerous youth institution, he is now in England's best youth offenders institution and will get free education on different courses. Not bad at all really. If I was him would stay the whole year instead of getting out early and complete a course which could provide him with a decent career in Pak.

 

[fredfertang]

Did Amir appeal? If he did, it was pretty stupid of him. He got a pretty good deal out of this. After being transferred from that dangerous youth institution, he is now in England's best youth offenders institution and will get free education on different courses. Not bad at all really. If I was him would stay the whole year instead of getting out early and complete a course which could provide him with a decent career in Pak.

Yes Amir did and he got knocked back too - have to say I thought he had a decent shout

As for Butt the only chance he had was, I suspect, to persuade the Court of Appeal that his sentence was unfairly long when compared with the one Asif got, in which he had a point, but one that the learned Lord Justices seem to have given very short shrift

 

[Agent Nationaux]

How come Asif didn't appeal?

 

[fredfertang]

How come Asif didn't appeal?

I would think he was advised that he was ****ing lucky to get away with just 12 months and that if he took the piss and appealed he'd like as not face a loss of time order ie if the Court of Appeal take the view an appeal is hopeless they can order that the time served prior to the appeal being heard shouldn't count as part of the sentence

 

[social]

Couple of hours for the hearing and 1 day to issue the judgement

Complete shafting

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Butt's appeal was pretty crap according to the judge. Not well prepared and presented.

As for Amir, his sentence is purely for deterrence. But he has got a good deal out of it.

 

[fredfertang]

Butt's appeal was pretty crap according to the judge. Not well prepared and presented.

As for Amir, his sentence is purely for deterrence. But he has got a good deal out of it.

Butt was very fortunate not to get 4 years, imo - that must have been what the Trial Judge had in mind for Majeed (before he got his one third discount for copping a plea) and I can't for the life of me imagine why Butt's role was considered less serious

 

[Scaly piscine]

How come Asif didn't appeal?

He did. He appealed the guilty verdict and not the sentence, as opposed to Amir and Butt.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

When is the hearing for that?

 

[Scaly piscine]

Not sure if a date has been set.

 

[fredfertang]

When is the hearing for that?

He's got to get permission to appeal first - that's done on paper in the first instance, and if it's refused on the papers he can still ask for a permission hearing and only if he gets that will he get a hearing date (although it sometimes happens if permission is granted at an oral hearing that, if the issues are straightforward, they go straight on and hear the appeal) - whatever stage its at it won't take long though so keep watching the news

 

[Jacknife]

LOL Amir's lawyers had basically gone the appeal route because they thought he served enough time already and that because he was 18 at the time, he should be set free. No wonder it took 2 hours if that's what they brought to the table in the appeal court.

Butt on the other hand had been caught bang to rights with all kinds of incriminating evidence to prove, not only he was involved but also that he was the ring leader. I found this line interesting:

His counsel, Ali Bajwa, admitted for the first time that his client had been implicated in the plot to bowl deliberate no-balls during the Lord's Test in August 2010, but argued that he had only been tempted in a one-off capacity by the size of the bung, £150,000, offered by the News of the World.

But apparently it's been a shafting.

 

[keeper]

Been wondering how they went about lodging their appeal. Did they stand in the dock at the first trial and, as the verdicts were read out, raise their arms into a large 'T' shape?

One thing that struck me about the judge's comments at the appeal (and I remember something similar from the initial trial) is that he spoke a lot about the effect of their actions on the game of cricket, supporters etc. My understanding is that their convictions have been based on attempting to defraud un-named third parties of large sums of money, not damaging the sport of cricket? Guess the Judges are cricket fans. If damaging the integrity of cricket was a crime the courts would be full, starting with the dicks who scheduled the Test series next summer.

 

[Jono]

Been wondering how they went about lodging their appeal. Did they stand in the dock at the first trial and, as the verdicts were read out, raise their arms into a large 'T' shape?

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[Agent Nationaux]

Welcome back mate.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Been wondering how they went about lodging their appeal. Did they stand in the dock at the first trial and, as the verdicts were read out, raise their arms into a large 'T' shape?

Did the judge have a red and green light then?

 

[smash84]

Asif appeals to Court of Arbitration for Sports over ICC ban

Mohammad Asif appeals to CAS over ban | Sport | DAWN.COM

 

[Black_Warrior]

I think this can be moved to the Pakistan cricket news topic