30 Test hundreds

[Howe_zat]

It's nowhere near as simple as that and you know it.

 

[Daemon]

Fair enough, that's your choice; but I think the numbers are meaningless unless you exclude the minnows.

One man has a pile of 30 coins, all of them are gold. His neighbor also has a pile of coins -- 20 gold coins and 11 silver coins. The neighbor has more coins. Meh

So you value each of a players hundred against a non-minnow the same?

 

[nick-o]

It's nowhere near as simple as that and you know it.

I think that is a criticism that could more usefully be aimed at the opening post. As if Bradman's 29 or Gavaskar's 34 can be compared on a simple numerical basis with the other members of that numerical club, all of whom have picked up meaningless tons against Bnagladesh, the "ICC World XI", etc.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I think that is a criticism that could more usefully be aimed at the opening post. As if Bradman's 29 or Gavaskar's 34 can be compared on a simple numerical basis with the other members of that numerical club, all of whom have picked up meaningless tons against Bnagladesh, the "ICC World XI", etc.

What about Bradman cashing in against India in 47/48?

Swings and roundabouts for all players as there will always be a weak team they will have done well against.

 

[centurymaker]

What about Bradman cashing in against India in 47/48?

Swings and roundabouts for all players as there will always be a weak team they will have done well against.

Bradman cashed in against both india and southafrica tbh.
8 of his 100s came in just 11 innings (10 tests) against them. avg of around 200. super-human stuff that tbh.

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agree that all batsmen cash in against some team at some point.

 

[Howe_zat]

agree that all batsmen cash in against some team at some point.

More relavantly, it's often little to do with whether a team is a minnow or not as to why they're being cashed in against.

Eoin Morgan scored possibly the easiest Test century I've ever seen this summer, and it was against what at that time was the world's no.1 ranked side.

 

[centurymaker]

More relavantly, it's often little to do with whether a team is a minnow or not as to why they're being cashed in against.

Eoin Morgan scored possibly the easiest Test century I've ever seen this summer, and it was against what at that time was the world's no.1 ranked side.

yes.

it could be because of the pitch being absolute road, a weakened bowling attack, match situation, or just that you have come up against a weak attack while you are in top form.

 

[Burgey]

Think Clarke may get there, but it will depend how he handles the captaincy and all the time constraints which come with it.

 

[Burgey]

What about Bradman cashing in against India in 47/48?

Swings and roundabouts for all players as there will always be a weak team they will have done well against.

He was nearly 40 tbf. But yes, it will always be the case. Good players will cash in agaisnt weak attacks.

Two points:

Firstly, the 30 ton mark is a tad arbitrary, but all measures are. Steve Waugh would be there but he got out a million times in the 90s, as an example of a modern player who was great but isn't there.

Secondly, the structure of tours and the calendar now is very much a two edged sword. There is so much cricket now, that when a player is out of form, there is little chance to get back into form playing FC or tour matches, like there used to be. The flip side is that when tehyr'e in good form they can get on a massive roll and peel off a lot of runs in tests, albeit going from country to country. That's not something which players in previous eras had the benefit/ difficulty of dealing with.

 

[sumantra]

very certainly jayawardhane and sangakara...cook and K.P are also certainties...sehwag and clarke should make it...highly likely are gambhir and bell...

pity that players like chandrapaul and laxman won't be able to make it...

 

[hang on]

one thing the modern - ok, ultramodern - players suffer from is the lack of acclimatisation time during tours. they need to hit the ground running. a couple of matches here and there to get used to different conditions is hardly sufficient. and the dearth of matches in between tests doesn't allow batsmen to bat themselves into some level of form/familiarity with the conditions.

milking the acclimatisation trope, the modern batsman also needs to be superadept at switching between forms of cricket. after playing a 20-20 series or a protracted odi series, to move into the test framework (or vice versa) cannot be particularly easy for those who have to wear many hats, keeping in mind the lack of acclimatisation to 'alien' conditions.

 

[Howsie]

Backing Kohli to get over the Short pitch bowling problem in tests tbh. Need to see more though, as he hasn't been that troubled with that type of bowling in ODI's.

He's played what, 75 percent of his one day cricket in the subcontinent, that would probably help mask it somewhat.

 

[Cevno]

He's played what, 75 percent of his one day cricket in the subcontinent, that would probably help mask it somewhat.

Yeah, but it hasn't been a problem outside too. Did pretty well in South Africa for example and also did well in the ODI's in the West Indies.

Besides, he would play about the same percentage of tests(or slightly less) in Asia too, if that helps mask it.

 

[The Sean]

He was nearly 40 tbf. But yes, it will always be the case. Good players will cash in agaisnt weak attacks.

Two points:

Firstly, the 30 ton mark is a tad arbitrary, but all measures are. Steve Waugh would be there but he got out a million times in the 90s, as an example of a modern player who was great but isn't there.

Waugh got 32 Test tons IIRC. Confusing him with AB maybe? Border got 27 tons but 60-odd 50s.

 

[centurymaker]

Waugh got 32 Test tons IIRC. Confusing him with AB maybe? Border got 27 tons but 60-odd 50s.

waugh, dravid, and tendulkar are the top 3 when it comes to 90s
(they have around 10 90s each iirc)

 

[Dan]

waugh, dravid, and tendulkar are the top 3 when it comes to 90s
(they have around 10 90s each iirc)

Michael Slater's up there as well. Was dreadful in the 90s.

 

[Valer]

Michael Slater's up there as well. Was dreadful in the 90s.

With not outs
Without not outs

 

[Xuhaib]

quietly backing Umer Akmal if he can over come his temperament issues. Virat is a certainty imo along with Ab.

 

[NUFAN]

So many of the young players mentioned are likely to get closer to 3 Test tons, not 30!

If Umar Akmal gets 30 Test tons, I'll eat my IPhone42S.

 

[centurymaker]

So many of the young players mentioned are likely to get closer to 3 Test tons, not 30!
.

tend to agree.