No runners ever and yes to UDRS

[smash84]

And can people please let me know which part-timers are good bowlers. I mean GOOD bowlers, not just good bowlers by part-time standards.

Isn't that a contradiction in terms. Good part time bowlers??? If part timers were GOOD bowlers on an absolute level then they wouldn't be part timers.

 

[GIMH]

I think that's what he's saying though - he'd rather just watch good bowlers.

 

[salman85]

What on Earth...?

You can't get a bowler "out" in any form of the game. So that metaphor does not work.

In test cricket, a batsman can bat for 5 days in theory unless they are dismissed. A bowler can bowl for 5 days in theory.

In ODI cricket, why not have a batsman being able to bat for 50 overs unless they are dismissed, and a bowler be able to bowl for 50 overs (i.e. 25 overs)?

If people think teams will actually go in with two bowlers they are seriously mistaken.

You will see 4 bowlers bowl 50 overs more often then 4 bowlers and 2 part-timers bowl 50 overs. That is seriously a good thing.

And can people please let me know which part-timers are good bowlers. I mean GOOD bowlers, not just good bowlers by part-time standards.

Hafeez,Yuvraj,Pietersen,Clarke and Tendulkar are all decent ODI bowlers.Hafeez is very good,Tendular on his day was very good too,and Yuvraj,Clarke and Pietersen are decent ODI bowling options.Ofcourse they are not as useful in Test Matches,but they are good ODI bowlers nevertheless.Hafeez and Tendulkar were/are good enough to bowl 10 very useful overs in an ODI.

Go back 10-15 years,and players like Amir Sohail,Mark Waugh,Carl Hooper,De Silva,Jayasuriya (Hooper and Sanath could even qualify as specialists) all good ODI bowlers.

 

[Howe_zat]

Pietersen really isn't much of a bowler any more in any form of the game. Far too many rubbishy deliveries, even for a filler role.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah a typical KP over has two really good balls and then you might as well draw out of a hat where the ball is gonna land

 

[honestbharani]

Good points from both sides on the bowlers' overs limit... The best idea I have seen on CW regarding this is that a bowler gets to bowl as many "extra" overs as the number of wickets he has taken.. For instance, if a Murali gets 3 wickets in his 10 over spell, he gets to bowl another 3 and if he gets another 1 in that, he can get one more and so on.. This will take care of both sides points, I think.. No team will go in with less than 4 specialist bowlers and the overs of the main bowlers will go upto at least 45 or so, leaving only 5 or 6 overs of part timers' rubbish...

 

[Spark]

Clarke's not nearly as good a bowler as he used to be too. Used get a nice shape on the ball but his back's screwed his bowling.

 

[Top_Cat]

Never thought he was that good at the top level, tbh.

 

[Howe_zat]

Good points from both sides on the bowlers' overs limit... The best idea I have seen on CW regarding this is that a bowler gets to bowl as many "extra" overs as the number of wickets he has taken.. For instance, if a Murali gets 3 wickets in his 10 over spell, he gets to bowl another 3 and if he gets another 1 in that, he can get one more and so on.. This will take care of both sides points, I think.. No team will go in with less than 4 specialist bowlers and the overs of the main bowlers will go upto at least 45 or so, leaving only 5 or 6 overs of part timers' rubbish...

That's an interesting idea. It might mean batsmen try and see off the stronger bowlers more and go after the weaker ones, as you don't want the best bowler to get more overs.

 

[Spark]

Never thought he was that good at the top level, tbh.

Haha, no, but he kept getting wickets at random. Not the worst 6th bowling option going around back in the day, and you could basically rely on him to fill in 4-6 reasonably cheap overs basically every match... not now though, basically just bowls darts.

 

[honestbharani]

That's an interesting idea. It might mean batsmen try and see off the stronger bowlers more and go after the weaker ones, as you don't want the best bowler to get more overs.

May also lead to captains setting more attacking fields for their better bowlers even when there are no field restrictions... Would bring in interesting questions on tactics from both teams..

 

[BlazeDragon]

New rules taking effect from October.

West Indies' tour of Bangladesh, which begins with a Twenty20 on October 11, will be the first international series under the ICC's revised playing conditions, which are effective from October 1. The amendments are only applicable to international cricket.

The ICC's cricket committee had made the recommendations after its meeting in London in May and they were passed by the executive board at the annual general meeting in Hong Kong in June.

Powerplays (ODIs only)
In a full ODI, the teams can take the bowling and batting Powerplays (five overs each) at the start of an over after 15 overs of an innings have been bowled. They must complete the Powerplays by the 40th over, which means the last block of fielding restrictions must begin in the 36th over. The first ten overs will comprise the mandatory Powerplay. This condition will not apply to innings reduced to fewer than 40 overs.

Under the previous playing conditions, teams were allowed to take the bowling and batting Powerplays at any time after the completion of the tenth over of the innings.

Runners (All formats)
A batsman will not be allowed a runner under any circumstances. The batsman can retire hurt and return to bat at a later stage in the innings.

Two new balls per innings (ODIs only)
Each fielding team will be given two new balls to be used in alternate overs, one at each end. The mandatory change of the ball after the 34th over of an innings will not take place anymore.

Obstructing the field (All formats)
If a fielding team appeals and the umpire feels the batsman has significantly changed his direction without probable cause, while running between the wickets, and obstructed an attempt to run him out, the umpire can give the batsman out for obstructing the field. It is not relevant whether a run out would have been affected or not. The on-field umpires are allowed to consult the third umpire in making the decision. The other circumstances in which a batsman can be out obstructing the field are still applicable.

Penalty time (All formats)
This amendment refers to the calculation of the time for which a player cannot bat or bowl because he or she was off the field.

If a player, who still has some unexpired penalty time remaining from a previous absence, is on the field when play is interrupted by bad weather, light or other reasons, the duration of the stoppage will be deducted from the remaining penalty time.

Bowler attempting to run out a non-striker before delivery (All formats)
Previously, the bowler could run out a non-striker backing up only if he did so before entering his delivery stride. This meant that as the bowler's back foot landed, the non-striker could move down the pitch before the bowler delivered the ball.

According to a new playing condition, 42.11, "The bowler is permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one of the over. If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker, the umpire shall call and signal dead ball as soon as possible."

The umpires shall deem the bowler to have completed his delivery swing once his bowling arm passes the normal point of ball release.

Extra time to complete a match (Tests only)
According to clause 16.2.2 of the Test match playing conditions: "The umpires may decide to play 15 minutes (a minimum of four overs) extra time at the scheduled lunch or tea interval of any day if requested by either captain if, in the umpires' opinion, it would bring about a definite result in that session. If the umpires do not believe a result can be achieved no extra time shall be allowed.

"If it is decided to play such extra time, the whole period shall be played out even though the possibility of finishing the match may have disappeared before the full period has expired.

"Only the actual amount of playing time up to the maximum 15 minutes extra time by which play is extended on any day shall be deducted from the total number of hours of play remaining, and the following session of play shall be reduced by the amount of time by which play was previously extended under this clause."

Delay of lunch interval when nine wickets down (Tests only)
If a team is nine wickets down at the time of the lunch interval, the break will be delayed by a maximum of 30 minutes. Previously, only tea was delay-able, while lunch was taken even if a team was nine down.

Duration of interval between innings (ODIs only)
The minimum interval for an uninterrupted ODI match has been increased from 20 minutes to 30 minutes.

ICC news: Powerplay tweaks and end of runners | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Гурин]

Runners (All formats)
A batsman will not be allowed a runner under any circumstances. The batsman can retire hurt and return to bat at a later stage in the innings.

I'd have preferred if the opposition team could choose the runner instead. To have no runners at all could be problematic.

Two new balls per innings (ODIs only)
Each fielding team will be given two new balls to be used in alternate overs, one at each end. The mandatory change of the ball after the 34th over of an innings will not take place anymore.

And this is something I don't like either; spinners could be penalized even more. Whatever, is for ODIs

 

[G.I.Joe]

And this is something I don't like either; spinners could be penalized even more. Whatever, is for ODIs

That's what I thought too, but Kumble thinks otherwise.

Two new balls will help spinners, News - Cricket - Mumbai Mirror

The article mentions that the Duke ball is used for Tests in India, which is incorrect, btw.

 

[Гурин]

That's what I thought too, but Kumble thinks otherwise.

Two new balls will help spinners, News - Cricket - Mumbai Mirror

The article mentions that the Duke ball is used for Tests in India, which is incorrect, btw.

Maybe it could be better for Kumble-like spinners or for misers, probably they'll be able to get some more bounce, but I fear that the attacking big turners of the ball will struggle. They're already disappearing, and this will not help their cause for sure

 

[Furball]

I don't think the two new ball idea will garm spinners all that much.In T20s, even if they don't bowlin the powerplay, they're coming on with a ball that's just 6 overs old. Plenty of spinners have adapted to opening the bowling in the format and it'll definitely benefit spinners who use bounce as a major weapon, because they'll be bowling with a harder ball. In the recent Oval Test, Swann was far more effective when he had a newish ball in his hands.

 

[Гурин]

I don't think the two new ball idea will garm spinners all that much.In T20s, even if they don't bowlin the powerplay, they're coming on with a ball that's just 6 overs old. Plenty of spinners have adapted to opening the bowling in the format and it'll definitely benefit spinners who use bounce as a major weapon, because they'll be bowling with a harder ball. In the recent Oval Test, Swann was far more effective when he had a newish ball in his hands.

As much as I'm doubtful about this, it could well be this way too, it's undenyable. We'll see.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Maybe it could be better for Kumble-like spinners or for misers, probably they'll be able to get some more bounce, but I fear that the attacking big turners of the ball will struggle. They're already disappearing, and this will not help their cause for sure

Nostalgic myth IMO. They were just always pretty rare.

 

[FBU]

It would be nice if you could run out two batsmen at once when they are stranded in the middle.

 

[ankitj]

In a full ODI, the teams can take the bowling and batting Powerplays (five overs each) at the start of an over after 15 overs of an innings have been bowled. They must complete the Powerplays by the 40th over, which means the last block of fielding restrictions must begin in the 36th over. The first ten overs will comprise the mandatory Powerplay. This condition will not apply to innings reduced to fewer than 40 overs.

I don't understand why they insist on having these extra optional powerplays in the first place. Back in 90's, there were first 15 overs of fixed powerplay, and I never thought those matches were boring.