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Better ODI bowler::: McGrath or Wasim
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smash84
The Tiger King
The answer below is betterAh, didn't you guys know that Wasim's deliveries, after taking the edge of the bat, would swing like being attacked by a typhoon just before reaching the catcher
The ball coming to the fieldsman faster as he bowled faster and the movement that Akram got with ball and his lesser accuracy meaning that it is harder to predict the areas where the ball will end up. Catches off Akram could also be lower to the ground as he got less bounce. And so on. I can think of numerous reason why more catches would be dropped of one bowler over another aside from the actual talent of the catchers.
BlazeDragon
Banned
Let me get this straight, Wasim Akram gets points due to the Aussie fielding being more successful and yet he doesn't get points taken away for the bowling being more successful?
Some hypocritical logic going around this place.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
what?
doesn't make sense.
are you saying that Mcgrath had better counterparts competing for wickets?
doesn't make sense.
are you saying that Mcgrath had better counterparts competing for wickets?
smash84
The Tiger King
haha.....yeah some ridiculous points flying around LOL
joker4life
Cricket Spectator
Wasim had more variety to his bowling while Mcgrath was much more accurate.. I would take wasim in ODI though.. but McGrath in test..
blahblahblah
International 12th Man
well depends on what one prefers
reverse swing and variety or miserly
reverse swing and variety or miserly
BlazeDragon
Banned
Yes I am. These are the team's bowling stats for the portion of their career that Mcgrath and Wasim played together.
Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
If I get a statistics doesn't matter response I won't be able to hold myself back from a face/palm.
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lmao and this guy says I'm baiting.
Its getting quite annoying so I'll report you this time though. You have to have some compromising photos of some mods here to get away with this one.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Ummm those are incorrect stats. Least you can do is post the correct stats when that is all you have to prove your point.
Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
SR of Pakistani bowlers during the period = 39.2, SR of Aussie bowlers = 39.7
Pakistani bowlers took 29 5ers, Aussie bowlers took 17. But yes, we have to use the stats provided by you to know that the Quality of wicket taking bowlers in Australia was better than the Pakistanis during that period. We have to just ignore common sense and what we saw just use stats and in this case incorrect stats.
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BlazeDragon
Banned
How are they incorrect stats if you wouldn't mind explaining? The link you posted uses the same criteria as mine so at least know what you are talking about.
I love this you keep ranting about how I provide manipulative stats to benefit my argument and yet you use strike rate to determine better bowlers
. Really now how about I just use economy rate to prove the better bowlers then. 
Your right we should use who had more 5fers to determine better bowlers. I might as well throw in who went wicketless more matches next.
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BlazeDragon
Banned
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
McGrath by 20% in ODI
McGrath by 50% in tests
happy now?
McGrath by 50% in tests
happy now?
BlazeDragon
Banned
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
wasim akram was at best a very good bowler. never a great.
if that is what you two want to hear then there i have said it. now take all junk posts to pakpassion. start/continue this discussion over there.
if that is what you two want to hear then there i have said it. now take all junk posts to pakpassion. start/continue this discussion over there.
BlazeDragon
Banned
I never said that. He is an all time great no doubt about that. Just because we don't place him in the top teir doesn't mean we are denying his greatness.
And judging by the name of that site a "Wasim Akram is a greatest bolwer" thread sounds like its gonna be quite popular there.
Some of you guys act like you have to rate someone as the very best or otherwise you are downgrading him.
Wasim Akram was a mighty fine bowler in fact one of the top 10 of all time arguably. I just find it annoying when people rate him the very best which he is far from just like I find it annoying when people rate Tendulkar as the very best. Though in all fairness Tendulkar is a top 5.
Wasim Akram was a mighty fine bowler in fact one of the top 10 of all time arguably. I just find it annoying when people rate him the very best which he is far from just like I find it annoying when people rate Tendulkar as the very best. Though in all fairness Tendulkar is a top 5.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
people don't do that on this forum!!!
most people rate mcgrath higher than wasim in tests. (the majority rate tendulkar from 3rd to 5th)
but when someone comes out of the blue and says wasim is not even in the class of McGrath then you can expect a strong reaction.