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[Neil Pickup]

I'd hope we're through it in the next few minutes. There doesn't look to be more coming on the radar.

 

[Z-Man]

Ok I admit that was a bit biased but yeah really 250 should be enough considering the loss of PP and stuff.
Because logically if you see, 270 is far too unreal because the bowl stays the same, new and shining until 15th over and the powerplays are shorter + it just ruins everything i.e gameplan

 

[Daemon]

You would have thought if they take 10 overs off, it's should be at least worth 50 runs, 5 rpo, so something around 255 would be fair.

But they have more wickets per overs now. I'd have been fine with anything >260.

 

[Howe_zat]

You would have thought if they take 10 overs off, it's should be at least worth 50 runs, 5 rpo, so something around 255 would be fair.

No, because the runs they take off you have to assume the chasing side got without losing any wickets.

If England got 50-55 runs without losing a wicket in 10 overs, that'd be a really good passage of play for them. So it has to be less than that to make it even.

 

[Jacknife]

But they have more wickets per overs now. I'd have been fine with anything >260.

Still that's 6.5 rpo.

 

[Jacknife]

No, because the runs they take off you have to assume the chasing side got without losing any wickets.

If England got 50-55 runs without losing a wicket in 10 overs, that'd be a really good passage of play for them. So it has to be less than that to make it even.

But still just over 3 rpo is taking the piss.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Ok I admit that was a bit biased but yeah really 250 should be enough considering the loss of PP and stuff.
Because logically if you see, 270 is far too unreal because the bowl stays the same, new and shining until 15th over and the powerplays are shorter + it just ruins everything i.e gameplan

Ever tried keeping a ball new and shiny when the outfield has just had half the atlantic emptied all over it? Or tried bowling spin with a damp ball?

Surrey made 386-3 off 38 overs earlier this season. We watched 15 overs of buggering around mid-innings with nothing happening in the early ovvers today, and that's what's been trimmed out of this reply - and let's not forget how England chased in the 23-over game.

This target might be a fraction high (Jayadevan would give 267) but only a fraction - it is infinitely easier to maintain rates for fewer overs.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Still that's 6.5 rpo.

That's because India scored 304.

Let's go and dig out some stats on successful 50-over chases of 304.

We should be looking for a 40-over total that gives the same chance of a successful run-chase.

 

[Furball]

Would people think a target of 122 from 20 overs would be fair or ridiculously easy to achieve?

 

[Bun]

You would have thought if they take 10 overs off, it's should be at least worth 50 runs, 5 rpo, so something around 255 would be fair.

Haha loving the moaning.


Seems like England getting saved by the weather for a third time

 

[Jacknife]

Haha loving the moaning.


Seems like England getting saved by the weather for a third time

Another quality post mate.

 

[Neil Pickup]

That's because India scored 304.

Let's go and dig out some stats on successful 50-over chases of 304.

We should be looking for a 40-over total that gives the same chance of a successful run-chase.

304+ has been scored 279 times in ODI cricket.

This has been successfully chased on 30 occasions (10.8% of the time).

I think this target retains that perfectly fairly.

 

[Furball]

How many powerplay overs do we get? I've either missed Sky confirming it or wasn't paying attention.

 

[NasserFan207]

Moaning about D/L is always pointless. Even if it seems unfair, its the only system we have so its stupid to argue about unless you have something else in mind.

 

[Daemon]

how many powerplay overs do we get? I've either missed sky confirming it or wasn't paying attention.

8, 4, 4

Edit: nevermind, it's wrong

2nd edit: I was right!

 

[stumpski]

I'm more concerned about chasing 270 / 40 with Cook, Trott and Bell in the first four than by the revised target itself. We need Kieswetter to stick around.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Would people think a target of 122 from 20 overs would be fair or ridiculously easy to achieve?

For reference, the D/L target off 20 overs would be approximately 172, and under Jayadevan 163.

 

[Jacknife]

How many powerplay overs do we get? I've either missed Sky confirming it or wasn't paying attention.

first Powerplay is 8 overs, the second four and third four

 

[Howe_zat]

304+ has been scored 279 times in ODI cricket.

This has been successfully chased on 30 occasions (10.8% of the time).

I think this target retains that perfectly fairly.

Would be interesting to compare that to CB40 chases of 270 or more. (cba myself obv)

 

[Neil Pickup]

first Powerplay is 8 overs, the second four and third four

That was what it would have been under 47 overs. It is now 8/4/4.