IMO Bond is the finest ODI bowler ever.

[smash84]

haha yeah......at least use guys with comparable quality. Like Bond and Macca or Bond or Macko. Who is better?

 

[weldone]

Ah, I learn so many things everyday in CW! So, Mills and Martin are better bowlers than Bond. Then why hasn't NZ won the last 2 World Cups, and been the no. 1 test team for the last 5 years or something?

 

[Mike5181]

Interesting to note Bond has 147 wickets in 80 innings and Garner has 146 wickets in 98 innings.

 

[weeman27bob]

Ah, I learn so many things everyday in CW! So, Mills and Martin are better bowlers than Bond. Then why hasn't NZ won the last 2 World Cups, and been the no. 1 test team for the last 5 years or something?

Because other teams have better bowlers?

 

[SteveNZ]

Heh yea that isn't even close. Chris Martin has held New Zealand back to sub-mediocrity for years because the fact is his bowling isn't good enough and he's an average fielder and an atrocious batsman. His overall contribution is poor. Bond on the other hand gave an otherwise mediocre team a cutting edge and helped NZ's performance no end.

Errr? Chris Martin has held NZ back to sub-mediocrity?

You're entitled to an opinion, but the guys is going to be only our third person to reach 200 Test wickets. He has won us Test matches, he's a genuine wicket-taker and does a better job with an older ball than any other options we've had.

I thought this batsman rubbish was well-worn and over with. McGrath was the biggest bunny on the planet for most of his career, was it ever a problem? He also wasn't a great fielder. Martin isn't either, but he's not awful.

Chris Martin deserves to be held up as one of our Test greats, and I say that as someone who's watched the majority of his career. I remember him destroying SA in a memorable Test win at Eden Park, I remember him as recently as last year knocking over India's top-order in memorable fashion.

Plus I once saw him miss a catch at Eden Park in a one-day domestic game because he was eating a banana. He's a champion.

 

[robelinda]

I think McGrath was an excellent fielder actually, maybe for the first 2 or 3 years he was terrible, but he really got quite good in the outfield, and even had more than a few run outs to his name with direct hits. I would even say he was the safest outfield catcher we have had for ages, he hardly ever dropped them. As far as his batting, don't force me to post my McGrath batting compilation video...........

Ah now you've done it....

THE WORLDS GREATEST BATSMAN - GLENN McGRATH!!!!! - YouTube

 

[smash84]

hahaha....Rob WAG

 

[Flem274*]

Errr? Chris Martin has held NZ back to sub-mediocrity?

You're entitled to an opinion, but the guys is going to be only our third person to reach 200 Test wickets. He has won us Test matches, he's a genuine wicket-taker and does a better job with an older ball than any other options we've had.

I thought this batsman rubbish was well-worn and over with. McGrath was the biggest bunny on the planet for most of his career, was it ever a problem? He also wasn't a great fielder. Martin isn't either, but he's not awful.

Chris Martin deserves to be held up as one of our Test greats, and I say that as someone who's watched the majority of his career. I remember him destroying SA in a memorable Test win at Eden Park, I remember him as recently as last year knocking over India's top-order in memorable fashion.

Plus I once saw him miss a catch at Eden Park in a one-day domestic game because he was eating a banana. He's a champion.

As a general rule, NZ posters learn not to respond to Scaly.

THE WORLDS GREATEST BATSMAN - GLENN McGRATH!!!!! - YouTube

I hope that's not what I think it is.

 

[Athlai]

Scaly has had a pretty tame year or two tbf.

 

[weldone]

Because other teams have better bowlers?

OK, so other teams have more than 2 bowlers better than Bond.

I wonder how bad a bowler Bond was! ... must have been someone like Jaidev Unadkat...

 

[Jono]

One of the more interesting threads in CC lately. Good discussion.

I reckon Flem's point regarding Mills was very good, but that is because Bond's bowling ability is THAT much better than Mills'. But Bond's bowling ability isn't that much better than Garner, Akram and McGrath, and he is thus inferior to those as an all-time ODI bowler.

 

[Athlai]

One of the more interesting threads in CC lately. Good discussion.

I reckon Flem's point regarding Mills was very good, but that is because Bond's bowling ability is THAT much better than Mills'. But Bond's bowling ability isn't that much better than Garner, Akram and McGrath, and he is thus inferior to those as an all-time ODI bowler.

TBF being inferior to arguably the top 3 ODI bowlers ever isn't all that bad.

 

[Jono]

Never suggested it was, but the argument was about #1 and whether missing cricket games should be taken into account.

 

[ankitj]

Curtly Ambrose a bit underrated as ODI bowler. Look at his ridiculous economy rate and compare with others whose careers coincided with his like Wasim Akram and Courtney Walsh.

 

[SteveNZ]

As a general rule, NZ posters learn not to respond to Scaly.



I hope that's not what I think it is.

Duly noted.

And I'm not clicking on that link out of fear either...

 

[robelinda]

You should be afraid......