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*Official* Fourth Test at The Oval

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Haha that pitch map of which balls Dravid played forward or back to off Swann was insane! What a player.
 

Jamee999

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Him being padded up is really weird. I mean, if it's such a bad concussion that he can't bat at all, that's legitimate, imo. But if he can bat today, he should have been the first man in today.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Gambhir has thrown the sickie to stop him getting dropped for the next series. Somebody will fall to make way and dropping Raina may not be enough but if Gambhir can plead injury and illness he can say it wasn't his fault. We all know the big 3 will stay and Sehwag can't be blamed for not scoring after injury so Gambhir would have been next in line for the chop.

May be way off but it does look like he is looking after himself and not playing for the team.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
concussion is a serious thing. it ain't a broken small toe. if the doctor and gambhir don't have 100% confidence he shouldn't bat....and really it's not gambhir's call. should be up to the doctor. over here a football who gets concussion doesn't come back in the same match. it doesn't go away with a little nap.
Netted this morning and, according to all the comms, the Indian management want him to bat.

Dereliction of duty.

Plus, of course, he has form in this regard. Pappa Gambhir has brewed a jibber.
 

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Gambhir has thrown the sickie to stop him getting dropped for the next series. Somebody will fall to make way and dropping Raina may not be enough but if Gambhir can plead injury and illness he can say it wasn't his fault. We all know the big 3 will stay and Sehwag can't be blamed for not scoring after injury so Gambhir would have been next in line for the chop.
Haha they won't drop Gambhir. The Indian selectors aren't that dire.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
skipped the green top durban test last year because of a minor elbow injury.
batted alright down the order at lords and then stranglely took the 2nd test off which was also on a greenish pitch.
 

Spikey

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Netted this morning and, according to all the comms, the Indian management want him to bat.

Dereliction of duty.

Plus, of course, he has form in this regard. Pappa Gambhir has brewed a jibber.
Not up to the management or the captain. All down to the doctor and the player. He may have netted but over on cricinfo they're saying David Lloyd saw Gambhir net and said "he really struggled". It ain't a bad cough or toe, it's his ****ing brain...and once he goes out there the bowlers ain't gonna get bowl half volleys to him. That said, him being padded is inexcusable. He's either been ruled out, by himself or the doctor, or he hasn't. But then it's no surprise a simple yes he'll bat/no he won't question is being handed this way by the Indian team. Shambles.
 

The_roc

U19 Captain
Just had a thought about another meaningless record.

If Dravid carries his bat and England enforce the follow on he will be straight back out to open in the second innings. That means he will have been on the pitch continuously since play began on Thursday, possibly going into day 5.

Will this be the longest unbroken stint on the pitch by any player?
 

Spikey

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Just had a thought about another meaningless record.

If Dravid carries his bat and England enforce the follow on he will be straight back out to open in the second innings. That means he will have been on the pitch continuously since play began on Thursday, possibly going into day 5.

Will this be the longest unbroken stint on the pitch by any player?
Cook last match innit

That said the carrying the bat factor adds uniqueness
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Not up to the management or the captain. All down to the doctor and the player. He may have netted but over on cricinfo they're saying David Lloyd saw Gambhir net and said "he really struggled". It ain't a bad cough or toe, it's his ****ing brain...and once he goes out there the bowlers ain't gonna get bowl half volleys to him. That said, him being padded is inexcusable. He's either been ruled out, by himself or the doctor, or he hasn't. But then it's no surprise a simple yes he'll bat/no he won't question is being handed this way by the Indian team. Shambles.
Presumably the docs have okayed him, so it must be down to the player.

Gun shy.
 

Spikey

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Not up to the management or the captain. All down to the doctor and the player. He may have netted but over on cricinfo they're saying David Lloyd saw Gambhir net and said "he really struggled". It ain't a bad cough or toe, it's his ****ing brain...and once he goes out there the bowlers ain't gonna get bowl half volleys to him. That said, him being padded is inexcusable. He's either been ruled out, by himself or the doctor, or he hasn't. But then it's no surprise a simple yes he'll bat/no he won't question is being handed this way by the Indian team. Shambles.
To add to this, the best comparison to this that I can think of is Langer in his 100th test. We won that match by 2 wickets...but really only one 'cause despite Langer being padded up, he was never gonna be allowed to go out there, Ponting said he was bring him down by force if he had to. Now obviously that was a tad more serious injury, but right now there doesn't seem to be anyone being assertive in the Indian camp and saying Yes/No to this, and that's not the player's fault, he's already got a pretty huge "my own personal health v my country's needs" battle going on in his sore head.
 
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Spikey

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Presumably the docs have okayed him, so it must be down to the player.

Gun shy.
Personally I don't see any doctor sending a player with conclusion out there, but yep, if he has GG deserves to abused etc. That said I'd be gun shy too. I don't think the people here and elsewhere are treating conclusion as seriously as they should be
 

Flem274*

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Personally I don't see any doctor sending a player with conclusion out there, but yep, if he has GG deserves to abused etc. That said I'd be gun shy too. I don't think the people here and elsewhere are treating conclusion as seriously as they should be
Always ends in tears that one.
 

The_roc

U19 Captain
Cook last match innit

That said the carrying the bat factor adds uniqueness
But Cook was out in the England first innings, so he hadn't been continuously on the pitch going into the Indian second innings. He was on the pitch continuously for less than 3 days.
 

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