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*Official* Third Test at Edgbaston

EnglishCricket

Cricket Spectator
Hard to say, but I'm yet to find any serious flaw in his glovework. Often takes the gloves ahead of Brophy, who definitely makes a better keeper than batsman, so I presume Bairstow's considered a good long-term keeper.
That's true but keeping under international pressure and to international standard batsmen (and in different conditions around the world) could be a different story.

Seems pretty solid but not yet considered a great keeper, if he works on that and keeps up his average, surely he will get his chance if Prior is injured. Not sure the selectors fancy Kieswetter for Test match cricket and I'm sure they would prefer the same keeper for Tests and ODIs.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Aye, was thinking of Lyth. Gale too - although I see now he isn't the youngster I thought.

Very excited about young Jonny but guess he is the generation after next. Btw, is he a genuine keeper or converted batsman..?
He's not a converted batsman, but I think there's always been doubts over whether he would give keeping up and become a pure batsmen but he himself has said he wants to keep wicket. I think he has been keeping ahead of Brophy in the CC this year even with both in the side.
 

EnglishCricket

Cricket Spectator
I think they do yes, and then they end up not paying for those on central contracts, but the sheer disruption to replacing the entire middle order suggests to me it's not a good idea.
Yes they do but if I was a county I'd prefer to have a player on the fringes of the England team, because English players never play for their counties.

I'd imagine the amount they are compensated wouldn't be much and anyway nobody goes about producing cricketers in the academy for England you are simply developing them to be the best players they can be and for the county.
 

keeper

U19 Vice-Captain
I heard they'd approached him but it makes no sense to me. You'd think that within 6 months he'd be a Test regular, meaning that we have yet another middle order batsman not available!
Guess the thinking may be that worst case they'll have him for a season or two and then maybe at the end of his international career. Best case they get one of the best county batsmen for a decade or more. Ashley Giles wins both ways of course with his dual roles.

Anyway, might just be gossip. But from Taylor's point of view Division One cricket may become very important - Lions games can only go on so long.
 

pup11

International Coach
I won't write off India totally just yet, they have Sehwag and Gambhir back as openers which provides their whole batting line-up a more settled look and with Harbhajan out of the series Mishra would get a chance and he unlike Harbhajan would pick wickets because he is an attacking leggie.

On the other hand the English top order is looking vulnerable in the absence of Trott, Strauss and Cook haven't performed in this series so far, Morgan and Bopara are yet to prove themselves as test match batsmen, so these are things that can hurt England if India bowl well.

Still everything said and done the Indian team would have to play out of their skins to have any sort of impact in the rest of the series.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Mishra might just be the foil Indian bowling attack has been searching for. Praveen and Ishant has been good in spurts. But India badly needed a spinner who can bowl long useful spells. Harbhajan has disappointed very much. While India still doesn't have a third fast bowler of any quality, if Mishra bowls long useful spells from one side, Dhoni will be able to use Praveen and Ishant in short spells from the other. I am actually expecting an improved and much more consistent effort from the Indian bowling atack in the third test.

In batting, I'm not expecting much from Sehwag after that brutal injury. I'll put my money on Gambhir rather. Though he hasn't got a big knock in the first test, he didn't look out of his comfort zone in the little time he spent at the crease, especially in the first innings. Dravid and Laxman are in great form, and Tendulkar looks like on the verge of a BIG knock. Dhoni's form with the bat is a big worry, so our batting will revolve mainly around Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman and Gambhir - and pretty much nobody else. That's a worry.

All in all, I'm expecting an imroved performance from the Indians. Whether that will result in a win is to be seen, especially given the dodgy weather forecast.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
If the weather stays like it's been for the past week, I'd expect Ishant and Sree to pick a couple up before their customary implosion. Trouble for India is I'd expect us to get them cheaply too. Sehwag won't last 5 overs against Anderson.
 

flibbertyjibber

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If we end up putting them in in similar conditions to what we have faced in the first 2 tests i'd expect us to bowl them out for less than 200.
 

Uppercut

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Sehwag will do well to make an impact. Unbelievable player but his technique just isn't made for England.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
India haven't played at Edgbaston for a while now. Infact 1996 was the last time they played there.

Sachin scored a terrific century(122) with wickets falling around him, in that match in the second innings with the second highest score being 18. Feel we need a big game from him here.
 
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