ICC Greatest Test Team

[archie mac]

Sehwag would be one of the first few names I'd put down on the sheet when you are talking about batting in the SC.

So you do agree with him regarding Sehwag.

Sehwag has scored a double in each of the 3 major nations in SC. Show me another batsmen with such credentials. I rate Hobbs very very highly, but we are talking about SC where Hobbs never played. So picking him is as speculative as picking Bradman and Sobers in an all time ODI XI; in all probability they would've done well in ODIs but nearly no one picks them.

EDIT: Jayawardene also has a double in all three major nations of SC !

Sehwag is a almost must pick in the SC. Infact would have him infront of Gavaskar playing in the SC too probably.

Please Hobbs one of the five greatest cricketers in Test history as voted by the best judges in Wisden would not be able to handle spin bowling in SC

I can't be bothered arguing with kids

And I used to wonder why SJS left (and no I am not comparing myself with SJS)

 

[ankitj]

Please Hobbs one of the five greatest cricketers in Test history as voted by the best judges in Wisden would not be able to handle spin bowling in SC

I can't be bothered arguing with kids

And I used to wonder why SJS left (and no I am not comparing myself with SJS)

With all due respect, what part of "I rate Hobbs very very highly" did you not get? Being patronizing in your tone doesn't quite conceal strawman and doesn't win you a debate.

 

[abmk]

Please Hobbs one of the five greatest cricketers in Test history as voted by the best judges in Wisden would not be able to handle spin bowling in SC

I can't be bothered arguing with kids

And I used to wonder why SJS left (and no I am not comparing myself with SJS)

oh please, stop flattering yourself , being condescending and try comprehending what others have written.

Point out a place where anyone in the quoted posts said Hobbs would not be able to handle spin bowling in the SC. However he didn't play there . Sehwag has and has been immensely successful. No one said Hobbs was a bad choice.

Funny how some say sehwag is a SC bully and can't play outside of it ( he is less successful outside of it no doubt ), but when it comes to picking a SC XI, they wouldn't pick him

 

[abmk]

Did he do well in 2004? The Akhtar led attacks were pretty **** tbh

remember the triple in Multan in 2004 ?

( just checked - his scores were 309,39,90,0 )

 

[Spark]

Please Hobbs one of the five greatest cricketers in Test history as voted by the best judges in Wisden would not be able to handle spin bowling in SC

I can't be bothered arguing with kids

And I used to wonder why SJS left (and no I am not comparing myself with SJS)

No need to get so defensive, especially when no one actually ever said that.

 

[smash84]

remember the triple in Multan in 2004 ?

( just checked - his scores were 309,39,90,0 )

Sorry I was not clear. I meant that did he do well against the McGrath led attack in 2004.

The Akhtar led attack was pretty **** as I mentioned earlier

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Sehwag is a almost must pick in the SC. In fact would have him infront of Gavaskar playing in the SC too probably.

Get a grip man, you're rambling incoherently.

 

[GIMH]

I'm pretty sure Hobbs should be picked in any sort of ATXI, regardless of where they are playing.

 

[Cevno]

Get a grip man, you're rambling incoherently.

Care to explain?
The matches are being played in the SC.

 

[abmk]

Sorry I was not clear. I meant that did he do well against the McGrath led attack in 2004.

he did pretty decently - averaging around 43 in that series, scored 155 at chennai and a 50 in Nagpur

The Akhtar led attack was pretty **** as I mentioned earlier

it was not that strong, but I wouldn't say it was that bad ...

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Care to explain?
The matches are being played in the SC.

If you don't understand it probably means you can't.

 

[Cevno]

If you don't understand it probably means you can't.

Great reasoning and Logic there.Kudos!!

 

[archie mac]

With all due respect, what part of "I rate Hobbs very very highly" did you not get? Being patronizing in your tone doesn't quite conceal strawman and doesn't win you a debate.

With all due respect you suggested Sehwag should be picked over Hobbs because the match was being played in the SC. I am saying Hobbs one of the best players of spin bowling in the history of cricket would on the flat decks in SC be chosen over every opener in Test history imo. To suggest otherwise is silly imo

oh please, stop flattering yourself , being condescending and try comprehending what others have written.

Point out a place where anyone in the quoted posts said Hobbs would not be able to handle spin bowling in the SC. However he didn't play there . Sehwag has and has been immensely successful. No one said Hobbs was a bad choice.

Flattering? Congratulations after 10000 posts you are the first person to accuse me of this

To me it is unbelievable to choose Sehwag over Hobbs in any all time XI no matter where they play (Test cricket). Bradman did not play there leave him out as well Murali never bowled well in Aust. Still would be happy to choose him to play in an alltime match there

Funny how some say sehwag is a SC bully and can't play outside of it ( he is less successful outside of it no doubt ), but when it comes to picking a SC XI, they wouldn't pick him

I would never pick him if Gavaskar and Hobbs were the choice and quite a few others itbt

No need to get so defensive, especially when no one actually ever said that.

The whole idea of Sehwag being chosen over Hobbs was my point but did not explain that too well

I'm pretty sure Hobbs should be picked in any sort of ATXI, regardless of where they are playing.

So far we have Hobbs, Bradman, Lillee, Barnes and Ponting who did not prove themselves in SC, you would think the conditions there were so different from the rest of the world. How did Pup score a Test 100 on debut? I think if Pup can do it and lets face it he would be half the batsman Hobbs was, than I think the Master may have made a few runs

Just to add, I enjoy watching Sehwag bat would pay to watch him anyday of the week

 

[archie mac]

Noticed that last post became mixed up with the quotes and my answers

Decided I would not stop until I fixed it or became bored, see if you can work out which one happened first

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I think you must have already been fairly bored when you started.

 

[archie mac]

I think you must have already been fairly bored when you started.

True. Have you read the David Tossell book on Tony Greig? Good stuff

 

[Cevno]

With all due respect you suggested Sehwag should be picked over Hobbs because the match was being played in the SC. I am saying Hobbs one of the best players of spin bowling in the history of cricket would on the flat decks in SC be chosen over every opener in Test history imo. To suggest otherwise is silly imo



I would never pick him if Gavaskar and Hobbs were the choice and quite a few others itbt



The whole idea of Sehwag being chosen over Hobbs was my point but did not explain that too well



So far we have Hobbs, Bradman, Lillee, Barnes and Ponting who did not prove themselves in SC, you would think the conditions there were so different from the rest of the world. How did Pup score a Test 100 on debut? I think if Pup can do it and lets face it he would be half the batsman Hobbs was, than I think the Master may have made a few runs

Just to add, I enjoy watching Sehwag bat would pay to watch him anyday of the week

There is no point debating with you it seems, but Sehwag is one of the best players of spin ever too and probably the best attacking opener ever on Crumbling pitches.Besides, not all pitches in the subcontinent are flat. Seamers who bowl reverse and Spinners are bowlers too last time i checked.

And what kind of Logic is that Clarke did well in India on debut so should Hobbs?
By that Logic since Harbhajan singh took 32 wickets against Australia Warne should have taken 60? But it doesn't work that way.

Yes Hobbs and Gavaskar were great players and would have done well in the Sub Continent but Sehwag's record in the subcontinent is phenomenal. And more than that he just gives the team a different option and dimension by putting up runs before the ball reverses or turns and makes batting easier for the batsman playing with him too. He makes bowlers bowlers change their lengths and lines and has done it to the best of them. Plus added to that he is a decent Bowling option too as a spinner and has won India a test with the ball in Srilanka too.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

Sehwag is a very strong contender for any all-time XI side for the sub-continent. And there is no denying that Hobbs and Gavaskar would belong in the topmost bracket of greatest openers ever to have graced the cricket field.

I can appreciate if people have their preferences and pick one great player ahead of the other. But to say that it's ridiculous to even consider someone else is being a bit pig-headed, IMHO. I would personally pick Hobbs and Gavaskar too, but if someone else picks Sutcliffe and Sehwag or B. Richards and Hutton; then that isn't a ridiculous choice by any means either.

 

[ankitj]

Sehwag is a very strong contender for any all-time XI side for the sub-continent. And there is no denying that Hobbs and Gavaskar would belong in the topmost bracket of greatest openers ever to have graced the cricket field.

I can appreciate if people have their preferences and pick one great player ahead of the other. But to say that it's ridiculous to even consider someone else is being a bit pig-headed, IMHO. I would personally pick Hobbs and Gavaskar too, but if someone else picks Sutcliffe and Sehwag or B. Richards and Hutton; then that isn't a ridiculous choice by any means either.

This, pretty much. There are some who don't consider Barry Richards in an all time XI because he played only 4 tests, while some others do on evidence of his exploits in FC and WSC. Two different viewpoints, neither of them deserves to be met with ridicule. Case of Hobbs or Sehwag in SC is exactly the same.

 

[EnglishCricket]

People are stupid

You can't call it a fair vote, there are more people in the sub-continent than anywhere else in the cricketing world.