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*Official* Third Test at Edgbaston

MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah two years ago. That's not enough to write off a bloke in his mid-20's 4 lyf.

I'm not saying I'm a fan, by the way, just saying I can see why the English selectors always keep him in the bank. He's not a fulfilled talent but I reckon I can see why, if he ever does kick off, he'll be tough to stop (for a while). See blokes like him all the time who just look likely if given opportunities. Some come good (KP), some don't.
He did kick off at one point. He got 3 consecutive hundreds (against Windies, yes). But that didn't stop him crashing back to earth when he came up against Australia's not brilliant attack. His technical problems are just too much considering he doesn't have much of a temperament to go with it, and I think pretty much all English supporters have given up on him by now.
 

Howe_zat

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Let's be fair, it's no easy feat to get three centuries in a row. Or hit a List A double, or hit that 170-odd on a minefield like he did the other week. The guy clearly can bat, it's just that from no angle does he beat out any competitors.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Ravi Bopara is a very talented batsman with good temperament and a loose technique.

The West Indies couldn't exploit it, but Australia could. Can India? They've shown they can bowl well in patches, and giving them Bopara and Morgan in the same side, possibly in consecutive positions, could start a collapse.

Bopara will always be a good domestic player, but he needs to tighten up his game.
 

FBU

International Debutant
Let's be fair, it's no easy feat to get three centuries in a row. Or hit a List A double, or hit that 170-odd on a minefield like he did the other week. The guy clearly can bat, it's just that from no angle does he beat out any competitors.
He had Daren Powell bowling to him. :)
 

SpaceMonkey

International Debutant
I may be totally off the mark but I'm really disappointed they went for Bopara over Taylor. I think the selectors / English management have kopped out there.:@

Just compare Taylors figures the last 2 years to Boparas and there really is no comparison.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Let's be fair, it's no easy feat to get three centuries in a row. Or hit a List A double, or hit that 170-odd on a minefield like he did the other week. The guy clearly can bat, it's just that from no angle does he beat out any competitors.
Three centuries in a row against West Indies, on lifeless wickets, where he was dropped/missed at least half a dozen times (hell it was 3-4 times in one innings alone). The feats of county cricket bashing he managed have a similar ring - both were against a godawful Leicester side. The pitch looks like a minefield when you half-decent bowlers against largely useless batsmen, then Essex bat and it's half-decent batsmen against one of the most atrocious bowling lineups ever to grace county cricket. They won one match at the start of the season and haven't won since (4 day stuff I mean).
 
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Howe_zat

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He had Daren Powell bowling to him. :)
So did the rest of the team, but Bopara's the one who went and hit those hundreds. I don't think he should have been selected either, I'm just saying that he has achieved something and it's not fair to claim he hasn't.
 

Scaly piscine

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So did the rest of the team, but Bopara's the one who went and hit those hundreds. I don't think he should have been selected either, I'm just saying that he has achieved something and it's not fair to claim he hasn't.
Obviously England aren't going to pick some trundler averaging over 35. But what has he ever done against a good bowling attack? You're supposed to look the part or against players that are that little bit below. With Bopara we make the leap from an occasional exceptional performance against a pub team to being an international cricketer. You see someone like Taylor, he's consistently a cut above against division 2, he moves onto playing against Sri Lanka A and so on, performs really well against them. There's a logical progression there. Bopara is a just a southern wideboy who was skipped through a lot of that on a hunch (which is fair enough to some degree) and since then he's play over 80 games for England and been not just mediocre but absolutely downright awful. He was given way too many games and he seems to have been fast-tracked once again because there's no way he's ahead of Taylor on merit.
 

grecian

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Meh Bopara, wouldn't have been my choice, but not surprised.

Does anyone feel that calling up Finn might mean they'll go with 4 seam bowlers, and drop Swanneh, if the pitch looks a typical Edgbaston wicket?
 

MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
Meh Bopara, wouldn't have been my choice, but not surprised.

Does anyone feel that calling up Finn might mean they'll go with 4 seam bowlers, and drop Swanneh, if the pitch looks a typical Edgbaston wicket?
I wish people would stop talking about dropping Swann. It won't happen, it can't happen, and it shouldn't happen. One bad Test doesn't ruin two awesome years.
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ravi hate is funny as ****. Scaly, I'm sure Taylor has been a cut above Division 2, he's been racking up the centuries hasn't he?
Probably wouldn't have gone Ravi myself but he's got experience, has got Test match centuries in the bank (regardless of against who or how) and he is pretty much a genuine bowling option these days. Those are 3 things he has over all the other competitors and you can see why the selector may have been tempted by it.
I'm intrigued to see how he will go, if he rocks up and is a bunny in the headlights like he was 2 years ago then he will be done imo.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ravi hate is funny as ****. Scaly, I'm sure Taylor has been a cut above Division 2, he's been racking up the centuries hasn't he?
Probably wouldn't have gone Ravi myself but he's got experience, has got Test match centuries in the bank (regardless of against who or how) and he is pretty much a genuine bowling option these days. Those are 3 things he has over all the other competitors and you can see why the selector may have been tempted by it.
I'm intrigued to see how he will go, if he rocks up and is a bunny in the headlights like he was 2 years ago then he will be done imo.
But he's not a genuine bowling option in Test cricket. He'd be a 'partnership breaker' because he bowls too much filth, he can bowl the odd decent ball but it shouldn't dismiss decent Test batsmen. If you're not quick enough (like Bopara and Collingwood before him) then your main role is containment. Stokes is a genuine bowling option because he's quick enough to run through a few batsmen cheaply, he can take a clutch of wickets, he's done it a few times this season for Durham. Taylor and Stokes have one main thing over Bopara, they're far more likely to perform. That's all that matters.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Watching Bopara bowl down here a few years ago (albeit in limited overs), I can say he was no Collingwood or Astle. He'll get thumped.*

*though the way India have batted...
 

flibbertyjibber

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I am fed up with Bopara getting chance after chance to once more show he isn't good enough. Ah well we will go in with 10 men then and all be amazed when Bresnan is dropped too. Bresnan or Bopara? I know who'd I go for every single time.
 

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