Would Stuart Broad make India's strongest test XI?

[flibbertyjibber]

One thing nobody can argue about, Broad is a better bat than Ishant.

 

[CricAddict]

One thing nobody can argue about, Broad is a better bat than Ishant.

India is still searching for that elusive old allrounder Irfan Pathan. Broad will make it based on his allrounder credentials.

 

[Cevno]

Actually,Irfan Pathan could have been very useful on this tour.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Actually,Irfan Pathan could have been very useful on this tour.

Extremely, he's opened before hasn't he too.

Wouldn't surprise me if Fletcher pushes for his return in time, especially when the stars start retiring. Push Dhoni to 6 and have Pathan at 7 and make room for 5 bowlers.

 

[marc71178]

Oh yes, please pick Pathan, he's got such a stellar record he even makes AA seem half decent.

 

[Cevno]

The man who ended Aussies record winning run at Perth.

He could rattle anyone with the ball swinging when he came on to the scene first.

 

[Cevno]

Btw,GIMH any praise for Ishant today?

 

[Manee]

Irfan will come good in Test cricket in a couple years, I do believe.

 

[GIMH]

Btw,GIMH any praise for Ishant today?

I had to call round to my Dad's at 12.30 today to pick something up which meant I left just after KP's wicket. Missed the damage. Soz!

 

[Furball]

Is he really better than Sreesanth and Ishant as a bowler?

Not sure at the moment, but would probably make it for the extra batting.

How do you explain their numbers then?

Broad gets in for his better batting, there's nothing else in it. Marginal.

Are you suggesting that Broad's improved to a significant degree of late?

don't agree. sree is better than broad and so is ishant. broad's batting however tilts him to be favored while playing on un swinging conditions. sree wud get the axe then.

in the abvoe said case the form broad is in .. i will take sree ahead of him for the first test ...don't know which sree will turn up but nay way it better to take him with a 50-50 chnace of a good bowler turning up than the 10-90 chance in case of broad

A man of the series performance in a home test series against Australia (IIRC the first MOTS performance by an Indian fast bowler in India since Kapil) and other performances that VCS has mentioned earlier.

On current form Broad will not make the Indian team for the England series regardless of him being hypothetically better than India's top seamers in the last 20 years.

No chance, really. An average of 36 and a strike rate touching 70 is just too weak for a team that needs some bowling strength. At best, Stuart Broad can replace Raina or that sixth batsman, but has no chance as a bowler. Maybe Bresnan or Finn can make the side, but not Broad. That would still boil down to the bowler in question lasting fifty Test matches, which is tough in this Indian setup.

Top stuff lads.

 

[zaremba]

Pitch. It. Up.

 

[Howe_zat]

I wonder if Andy Flower has had Saker killed and replaced him with a robot doppelganger, one only capable of throw-downs in the nets and looking slightly intimidating on the pavilion balcony.

 

[Furball]

 

[wpdavid]

I wonder if Andy Flower has had Saker killed and replaced him with a robot doppelganger, one only capable of throw-downs in the nets and looking slightly intimidating on the pavilion balcony.

Is that a reference to Saker's daft description of Broad as an 'enforcer' - a role which appeared to have held back his development for about 18 months. Flower's very public trashing of that particular view was one of the more extraordinary - and praiseworthy - pieces of dealing with BS that you'll come across.

 

[Howe_zat]

It was.

 

[Jacknife]

When you think about it though, even though Saker came out with this term, enforcer, during the SL tests, I personally can't see how, it should have effected Broad that much, in terms of him bowling properly and to plans, surely the bowling plans, are drawn up jointly between the coaches.
At the end of the day, after every series, the whole team, all sit down together and go through stats and how each bowler went and where they bowled etc, so you would have thought Flower, would have got his feeling across, about how Broad's bowling in those meeting. The thought that Saker's been telling him, to constantly find the middle of the pitch, just doesn't ring true, at all.
I think Broad's improvement, can be seen as been down to a number of things, getting back to form after the injuries, is probably the main one but also, the thought of losing his place has spurred him on, which must of also been a huge factor.

 

[Prince EWS]

When you think about it though, even though Saker came out with this term, enforcer, during the SL tests, I personally can't see how, it should have effected Broad that much, in terms of him bowling properly and to plans, surely the bowling plans, are drawn up jointly between the coaches.
At the end of the day, after every series, the whole team, all sit down together and go through stats and how each bowler went and where they bowled etc, so you would have thought Flower, would have got his feeling across, about how Broad's bowling in those meeting. The thought that Saker's been telling him, to constantly find the middle of the pitch, just doesn't ring true, at all.
I think Broad's improvement, can be seen as been down to a number of things, getting back to form after the injuries, is probably the main one but also, the thought of losing his place has spurred him on, which must of also been a huge factor.

Okay, I've been trying to not say this for ages because you're a good bloke who knows his cricket, but what's with all the commas? Every time I read one of your posts I picture Stevie from Malcolm in the Middle. Don't mean it in a harsh way; there's just a weird flow to it - is it a technique of some sort?

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

I have to consume humble pie here. Broad silenced me and all his critics with his bowling at Lord's. Still expect more consistency from him if he expects to stay in the England team.

I don't think he's superhumanly talented, but can and should render good service to his nation. And as Zaremba says, pitch the ****ing thing up!

 

[Jacknife]

Okay, I've been trying to not say this for ages because you're a good bloke who knows his cricket, but what's with all the commas? Every time I read one of your posts I picture Stevie from Malcolm in the Middle. Don't mean it in a harsh way; there's just a weird flow to it - is it a technique of some sort?

Must be the way I speak I tend to put them in retrospectively because I'm so crap at typing.In fact I've gone from not putting any in, to probably over doing it a bit, especially when I read other people's posts that don't have any commas in. Reading it back though, I have put a few in the wrong places.

 

[GIMH]

Don't worry about Prince ****. He's just a ****. If I was you I'd have put extra commas in my reply to him. Because he's a ****.

(*disclaimer - he did do a very good deed yesterday for which I will always be grateful. But he'll always be a ****)